Planning to fight China to the last Taiwan person :sadness-abysmal:

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    So is Ukraine actually doing well? Or is the CIA believing its own propaganda? I heard on here that the Javelins were getting destroyed by Russia but here it sounds like they're working well enough to give them confidence that Taiwan could benefit. This is pure Western hubris either way and China isn't the Qing Dynasty or the Republic of China.

    • ToastGhost [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      if you did nothing but look at the war map like its a paradox game you would think ukraine is making a comeback since russia left the area around kiev, the reality is that russia now has a foothold in the territory it wants to hold and its unlikely there will be much more ground gained or lost either way.

      • RION [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        If we're talking paradox they're building up war score by holding the contested territory. Don't know if they've had a decisive major battle to get it over the threshold to sue for peace though.

        Plus Zelensky's favorability meter for pressing terms probably has "US Puppet" on it with a billion red minuses which means he wont surrender until the literal last moment

        (Preemptive self :jesse-wtf: )

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        unlikely there will be much more ground gained or lost either way.

        Agree with most of your post but not this part. Ukraine is essentially finite stockpile of many weapons systems (jets, tanks, cruise missiles, etc). Even if the West wanted to supply these big ticket items, it'd take years to get enough Ukrainians up to snuff on the operation and maintenance side. That's why most of the aid that's been sent is pretty point and shoot stuff like man portable missiles. Even the howitzers supplied by the US and Aus had their complex digital fire control systems removed.

        Russia, on the other hand, makes most of its own stuff and can keep up resupply (even if at a diminished rate due to sanctions). Given enough time, the Russians should be able to grind down Ukrainian assets until the entity UAF is just light infantry, at which point the Russians can overrun them.

        The main question is the political target and Russian public sentiment on where to stop. The former is unknown and the latter varies wildly depending on source.

    • pastalicious [he/him, undecided]
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      2 years ago

      Probably doesn’t matter. They get to enrich their donors with more arms sales and get a bunch of otherwise sober and rational people to stop thinking about how Bozos and Musk are fucking them over to instead think about how they wish all the people from country X were dead.

    • Zo1db3rg [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I mean every day or so someone posts the news on here with a map or Ukraine and every new map shows Russian advancing so I'd say Russia is definitely doing better

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Heroic Zelensky is just luring the Russians further into Ukrainian territory with the lives of Ukrainian citizens so that they can be trapped and wiped out in an ambush by the Ghost of Kiev and Elon Musk in his Iron Man suit.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I think the Pentagon consensus is that Javelins are great in tests but too bulky to actually stock up on. That didn't mean we won't keep trying to sell them though, and they work better in defensive situations anyway.