they'll never get rich but they'll also never end up starving because they grew a cash crop that they couldn't eat. Xi is trying to make sure that no one in his country ever goes hungry. I wish we had leaders in the usa that cared as much about that.
How do you know that? People in China go hungry all the time. Official poverty rates might've been reduced significantly, but the poverty line in China is much less livable than the poverty line in America. If you make $2.31 a day in China, you're not technically in poverty!
Not to mention similar homelessness rates to America
but the poverty line in China is much less livable than the poverty line in America
The poverty lines are calculated using the same formulas to determine livability for each country. Everybody should theoretically have a somewhat similar standard of living at the poverty line across countries
The poverty line for USA is a 14500 salary. 80% of Americans live in a city. How many cities in USA exist where you can live well on a 14500 salary? Not to mention a single healthcare incident will instantly wipe out whatever scraps you can save off a 14500 salary
People who make 2.3USD a day in China live in a place where it is possible to live on that cheap salary
Not to mention similar homelessness rates to America
Can you link a source? The most recent data I found dates back to 2011
Purchasing power parity of China is 4.022. So let's look at the overall poverty line of $2.30 in China. That would be equalivent to $9.25 a day in America, or $3,376 a year.
China makes their poverty rates appear so low by making their poverty line absolutely ridiculous and actually much lower than comparable countries.
Of course I couldn't any PPP rates for just rural China (although it's pretty obvious $3,376 isn't going to suddenly becoming $30,000 because it's rural), but see this:
Our results indicate that the mean subjective poverty line of the rural households is 8297 yuan per capita, which is far higher than the national poverty line (2800 yuan). Statistically, 29% of the surveyed rural households who are not objectively poor feel subjectively poor.
29% of people who are not objectively poor feel subjectively poor?
I said that amount is livable in China. That study is about people's feelings. Hardly related
Not to mention I work in Silicon Valley as a software engineer and it's literally common for people here to be making 200-400k to complain about being poor and not saving much all the time
How many people living in the Midwest or the south on a 20k salary do you think would feel subjectively poor?
Conveniently ignoring the fact a $3.3k salary isn't livable anywhere in America.
Spoiled middle class westerners complaining about being poor is totally different LMAO. Americans will complain about being poor when living in a decent house in suburb, being poor is seen totally different in 2nd and 3rd world countries that are, yknow, struggling much moreso.
Lol. $845/yr is the number the CCP conveniently made up to make poverty rates seem lower than they actually are. If the poverty line was the same as comparable countries to China, it would be almost double ($5.50 a day instead of $2.30, or adjusted for PPP $8k/yr instead of $3.3k).
Despite the fact that China is classified as an upper-middle income country, China’s official poverty line is only a little higher than the universal global poverty line. Applying the World Bank upper-middle income poverty line of $5.50/day to China would mean almost a quarter of Chinese still live in poverty.
Despite China "still being poor" or whatever, the fact of the matter is that povery line go sharply down so China is becoming more gooder by the year. While in the country whose policies you support, poverty line stay same, not become gooder.
I know, but what outlets does the World Bank get its data from for a given state? And why didn't you link TWB directly instead of going through macrotrends? Answer: You don't know what you're talking about, and you're not paying attention.
I know lol but you still don't get to make that comment when you couldn't even find the data yourself you incompetent fool. Bernie would be very disappointed.
rice farmers complaining about profits are definitely not going hungry
poverty in china nowadays is pensioner age old people whos kids have left for the cities for better economic opportunities because their village is located inside a literal cliff 18 hours and a mule ride from civilization and the only viable occupation there is subsistence barley farmer/part-time chicken keeper
poverty alleviation isn't about making sure these people can turn a profit, it's about relocating them to places where they can be made less hostile to the concepts of electricity and running water, because otherwise they would just be content to stay inside their cliff and head into town once a year to collect their poverty check/trade in their moonshine for ibuprofen
you didn't say anything about the rates of hunger in China. Those people that are in poverty still don't have to worry about where their next meal is coming from
Man, the thought terminating cliche rigging of the brains of people on these subjects is really depressing.
We make long well thought out good faith posts and get dismissed as propaganda, even though we're just regular people with earnest opinions. Like come on, have some intellectual curiosity. Think. This isnt even a enthusiastically pro-China post. Please. If you're going to come to our instance, please, please actually come here in good faith.
Earnest and good faith? I clicked the fucking link, there was a literal NSFW pig, shitting on its fucking testicles. Why would I listen to what they have to say after that?
99% of the post was earnest and good faith, it ended with one of our memes. Stop doing that thing libs do where they pick out one element of a post to refuse to engage with the rest of it. You're just making excuses to not think.
Also, you're switching lanes here anyway. You said it was propaganda. Not that you were put off by the meme at the end.
"denying" the "genocide" of the holodomor, or, in other words, not downplaying the actual literal Holocaust. Please, go read some serious historians and not Robert Conquest. No one who has seriously studied the issue, and actually had access to the Soviet archives thinks that it was a genocide. Take just one small fact for example: if the holodomor was a targeted genocide of Ukrainians, why did more Kazakhs die during the famine? Why do they not cry "genocide" like the Ukrainian state?
Regardless, it's responses like this that warrant the pig poop balls. No investigation, no right to speak.
I'm sure it's overlooked that Stalin was committing genocide on Muslims even moreso than Ukrainians!
"I'm sure I'm right, I must be! "
Again, come on man, no investigation, no right to speak. No one who has studied this more than you or I ever will believes it was a intentional genocide. Go read the new translation of Losurdo's Stalin, that'll do you more good than whatever it was you were going to do tomorrow.
If you like Lenin you should read about his thoughts on imperialism sometime. His works on the subject inform the views on geopolitics of the "tankies" you so despise.
(You should also read "On Authority" by Engels since you throw around the word authoritarian a lot).
The only cultural genocide committed against the Uighurs is the one you support by believing the lies of the US and Saudi backed separatists
Uighur culture is Muslim but not traditionally super conservative; the real cultural genocide was when they banned dancing and drinking alcohol in public, not when China cracked down on the reactionary religious extremists who were oppressing Xinjiang and becoming a threat to all of China
I wish we had the power to do the same to reactionary Christians here in because re-education is the only hope for any of them
The holodomor is a lie propagated by literal nazis to downplay the actual genocide of the Holocaust and you are committing Holocaust denial every time you call it genocide
The real event you're thinking of is the Bowlodomor, that was when Stalin loaded all the weed in into the bowl of his giant bong and inhaled it all in a single breath before exhaling a breath of smoke so large it covered the whole Ukrainian sky while saying "look at me, I'm the dragon of communism"
While that did cause a famine, to be fair it was really really funny
Easy to paint all Uighurs as enemies that need to be "saved" and "helped" by the "superior Han race" because some of them were extremists. You really don't think Uighurs as a whole were persecuted? This is like justifying when America detained random Muslims because the Nation of Islam existed.
The holodomor is a lie propagated by literal nazis to downplay the actual genocide of the Holocaust and you are committing Holocaust denial every time you call it genocide
It's common sense knowledge. I literally learned about both the Holodomor and Uighur persecution in history and civics class in high school, and we touched on it in a couple college classes as well. I had a textbook literally headlined "Holodomor Genocide" or something, you think everything is just western propaganda?
I literally learned about both the Holodomor and Uighur persecution in history and civics class in high school, and we touched on it in a couple college classes as well.
Sooo you're saying info taught from academic textbooks is all made up? Probably the type to dismiss education as "liberal propaganda" just like conservatives.
Sooo you're saying info taught from academic textbooks is all made up?
It really depends man, like in Poland right now academic textbooks are saying homosexuality is a modern de.gene.racy brought on by communist ideology.
Do you trust that your country will give you honest and unbiased info about its enemies?
Also you should read this book, it was linked earlier in the thread for you, don't forget it: https://www.iskrabooks.org/_files/ugd/ec1faf_2d8a8a045ef442a4bc367697d9231c01.pdf
Sooo you're saying info taught from academic textbooks is all made up?
My highschool civics classes taught that the annexation of Hawaii was the US stepping in to "restore democracy" and liberate the islands after American plantation owners established a junta with private mercenaries, alongside plenty of just trivial factual errors like claiming late 19th century American farmers were concerned over "inflation" when they were actually debtors worried over deflation. One of those classes literally taught the lie about progressive tax brackets meaning people who make more money end up with less as a fact. Highschool civics classes are literally just propaganda classes with textbooks written by far-right thinktanks.
My college poli-sci class literally taught that "socialism is when the government does stuff and when it does a lot that's communism."
Schooling and academia is plagued with errors, propaganda, and brainworms, whether those come from active institutional efforts to spread disinformation, shitty quality control from for-profit publishers, or teachers who are themselves ignorant or have brainworms.
No problem with education as an academic myself, but American education is kind of seen as a joke to us non-Americans. School shootings aren't exactly good for learning, and if you didn't want people accusing the American education system of propaganda its probably not a good look to make kids mindlessly chant to pledge submission your your god and a flag. Hope that helps!
Am I denying mass prosecution? No, if what you mean is racial profiling after as series of islamist extremist attscs.
Am I denying genocide? Well I haven't seen proof of it existing in the first place. And since burden of proof is on the claimant I'm waiting for a source (Sry Wikipedia won't suffice)
Here's a primary source for you:
'What Is The Empire's Strategy?' - Col Lawrence Wilkerson Speech At RPI Media & War Conference - Ron Paul Institute 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91wz5syVNZs
How do you contextualize what is being said starting at ~22:20?
You linked a few unreliable sources earlier without reading their contents so your facts and logic are inferior my son. Bernie will punish you when I send him my report.
What in that users post that you rejected as propaganda had anything to do with the Uighurs or Holodomor. Like, you're wrong about those things and the facts are on our side on those issues, but I don't even care about that. And neither do you, they're just excuses to not engage with things intellectually for you. You dont give a fuck about Uighurs.
When they say something like "I'm not reading that propaganda!" or "Umm acktually, no u!" or "You're being rude to me! I'm not listening to you! Waaaah!" it's just a sign that they know they don't actually have a counter argument anymore. They know their position is one of smug ignorance, and they're just too pathetic to admit they might be wrong about something.
That's really rude, you asked a question, someone gave you an answer, and then you dismiss the answer as propaganda without reading it because it's difficult to read. This isn't what Bernie would do.
2.5% is the hunger rate of China according to your source. So I decided to look up the US and see how it compares. https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ag-and-food-statistics-charting-the-essentials/food-security-and-nutrition-assistance/
10% or in other words china is currently 4x better at feeding the hungry than the US is. 10% of 300+million is also around 30+million, so a comparable number but just out of an incomparably smaller population.
So you, following the advice of people who cannot get hunger below 10%, in a country with enough food waste to solve the problem, think that people on the other side of the world, whose hunger problem is only a quarter of your neighbors, should fix their hunger by growing LESS FOOD in favor of cash crops? Is that correct?
It does because you're claiming that the system that America is the best example of: letting the free market run food security, is superior to what China is doing. This is an incorrect statement as proven by statistics.
It does because you’re claiming that the system that America is the best example of: letting the free market run food security
Putting words in my mouth.
Also you used a different metric from the metric I used. China and America have the exact same (2.5%) hunger rate using the same source. Typical Hexbear lying.
You're using a different source than I used. Look at the US hunger rate under the same definition as the China hunger rate. Different sources have looser ways of defining hunger.
There is no other way to interpret this comment other than demanding the farmer(s) sell the product of their choice at the market, favoring the individual over the collective here.
The government could make them grow green rice but give them extra money to make up for it. Farmers deserve fair pay. Of course, the millionaires and billionaires of the CCP wouldn't want that.
Nah it's pointing out how the approach you suggest (let the free market decide what's profitable to grow for food security) is inferior to what China is doing.
Ok but why are you so angry about people so far away from you when your neighbors are suffering more (at the hands of the people telling us what it's like 'over there's)
they'll never get rich but they'll also never end up starving because they grew a cash crop that they couldn't eat. Xi is trying to make sure that no one in his country ever goes hungry. I wish we had leaders in the usa that cared as much about that.
How do you know that? People in China go hungry all the time. Official poverty rates might've been reduced significantly, but the poverty line in China is much less livable than the poverty line in America. If you make $2.31 a day in China, you're not technically in poverty!
Not to mention similar homelessness rates to America
The poverty lines are calculated using the same formulas to determine livability for each country. Everybody should theoretically have a somewhat similar standard of living at the poverty line across countries
The poverty line for USA is a 14500 salary. 80% of Americans live in a city. How many cities in USA exist where you can live well on a 14500 salary? Not to mention a single healthcare incident will instantly wipe out whatever scraps you can save off a 14500 salary
People who make 2.3USD a day in China live in a place where it is possible to live on that cheap salary
Can you link a source? The most recent data I found dates back to 2011
https://data.oecd.org/conversion/purchasing-power-parities-ppp.htm
Purchasing power parity of China is 4.022. So let's look at the overall poverty line of $2.30 in China. That would be equalivent to $9.25 a day in America, or $3,376 a year.
China makes their poverty rates appear so low by making their poverty line absolutely ridiculous and actually much lower than comparable countries.
Of course I couldn't any PPP rates for just rural China (although it's pretty obvious $3,376 isn't going to suddenly becoming $30,000 because it's rural), but see this:
29% of people who are not objectively poor feel subjectively poor?
I said that amount is livable in China. That study is about people's feelings. Hardly related
Not to mention I work in Silicon Valley as a software engineer and it's literally common for people here to be making 200-400k to complain about being poor and not saving much all the time
How many people living in the Midwest or the south on a 20k salary do you think would feel subjectively poor?
Conveniently ignoring the fact a $3.3k salary isn't livable anywhere in America.
Spoiled middle class westerners complaining about being poor is totally different LMAO. Americans will complain about being poor when living in a decent house in suburb, being poor is seen totally different in 2nd and 3rd world countries that are, yknow, struggling much moreso.
Well that's why the American poverty line has been calculated to be 14500
14500 is the poverty line in America and 845 is the poverty line in China
PPP isn't a perfect comparison between every single combination of all 200 countries in the entire world
But the poverty line is specifically calculated for every single country
Lol. $845/yr is the number the CCP conveniently made up to make poverty rates seem lower than they actually are. If the poverty line was the same as comparable countries to China, it would be almost double ($5.50 a day instead of $2.30, or adjusted for PPP $8k/yr instead of $3.3k).
Despite the fact that China is classified as an upper-middle income country, China’s official poverty line is only a little higher than the universal global poverty line. Applying the World Bank upper-middle income poverty line of $5.50/day to China would mean almost a quarter of Chinese still live in poverty.
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13% = 25%? (from a very biased source too btw)
Despite China "still being poor" or whatever, the fact of the matter is that povery line go sharply down so China is becoming more gooder by the year. While in the country whose policies you support, poverty line stay same, not become gooder.
https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/CHN/china/poverty-rate
Ok but that's for 2019, the source I listed has info for 2021.
Halved, in two years? Be realistic. Some random ass NPR article?
If we're talking about validity of sources, NPR is a more trustworthy source than a shady investment site. You're not paying attention.
Hm what's this?
I know, but what outlets does the World Bank get its data from for a given state? And why didn't you link TWB directly instead of going through macrotrends? Answer: You don't know what you're talking about, and you're not paying attention.
Cleaner and quicker presentation of data.
Its ok to do bad research by pursuing expediency over credibility, nobody is perfect, just do better next time.
Oh wow a 0.5% difference! Those are the rounded values foolish tankie.
I know lol but you still don't get to make that comment when you couldn't even find the data yourself you incompetent fool. Bernie would be very disappointed.
(Also the same entity that gave such data to TWB has this to say about China lmfao)
Don't care didn't ask. I linked the same data.
I don’t know why anyone is still bothering to reply to this very obvious CIA bot.
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rice farmers complaining about profits are definitely not going hungry
poverty in china nowadays is pensioner age old people whos kids have left for the cities for better economic opportunities because their village is located inside a literal cliff 18 hours and a mule ride from civilization and the only viable occupation there is subsistence barley farmer/part-time chicken keeper
poverty alleviation isn't about making sure these people can turn a profit, it's about relocating them to places where they can be made less hostile to the concepts of electricity and running water, because otherwise they would just be content to stay inside their cliff and head into town once a year to collect their poverty check/trade in their moonshine for ibuprofen
you didn't say anything about the rates of hunger in China. Those people that are in poverty still don't have to worry about where their next meal is coming from
Give me a break. Stop lying. 35 million Chinese go hungry.
maybe this is why they're focusing on growing food crops
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Aint reading allat propaganda 🤣🤣
Man, the thought terminating cliche rigging of the brains of people on these subjects is really depressing.
We make long well thought out good faith posts and get dismissed as propaganda, even though we're just regular people with earnest opinions. Like come on, have some intellectual curiosity. Think. This isnt even a enthusiastically pro-China post. Please. If you're going to come to our instance, please, please actually come here in good faith.
Earnest and good faith? I clicked the fucking link, there was a literal NSFW pig, shitting on its fucking testicles. Why would I listen to what they have to say after that?
99% of the post was earnest and good faith, it ended with one of our memes. Stop doing that thing libs do where they pick out one element of a post to refuse to engage with the rest of it. You're just making excuses to not think.
Also, you're switching lanes here anyway. You said it was propaganda. Not that you were put off by the meme at the end.
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"denying" the "genocide" of the holodomor, or, in other words, not downplaying the actual literal Holocaust. Please, go read some serious historians and not Robert Conquest. No one who has seriously studied the issue, and actually had access to the Soviet archives thinks that it was a genocide. Take just one small fact for example: if the holodomor was a targeted genocide of Ukrainians, why did more Kazakhs die during the famine? Why do they not cry "genocide" like the Ukrainian state?
Regardless, it's responses like this that warrant the pig poop balls. No investigation, no right to speak.
That's a good point-- I'm sure it's overlooked that Stalin was committing genocide on Muslims even moreso than Ukrainians!
FYI I like Lenin just not authoritarian capitalist Stalin that caused the decline of Soviet communism.
"I'm sure I'm right, I must be!
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Again, come on man, no investigation, no right to speak. No one who has studied this more than you or I ever will believes it was a intentional genocide. Go read the new translation of Losurdo's Stalin, that'll do you more good than whatever it was you were going to do tomorrow.
If you like Lenin you should read about his thoughts on imperialism sometime. His works on the subject inform the views on geopolitics of the "tankies" you so despise.
(You should also read "On Authority" by Engels since you throw around the word authoritarian a lot).
The only cultural genocide committed against the Uighurs is the one you support by believing the lies of the US and Saudi backed separatists
Uighur culture is Muslim but not traditionally super conservative; the real cultural genocide was when they banned dancing and drinking alcohol in public, not when China cracked down on the reactionary religious extremists who were oppressing Xinjiang and becoming a threat to all of China
I wish we had the power to do the same to reactionary Christians here in
because re-education is the only hope for any of them
The holodomor is a lie propagated by literal nazis to downplay the actual genocide of the Holocaust and you are committing Holocaust denial every time you call it genocide
The real event you're thinking of is the Bowlodomor, that was when Stalin loaded all the weed in
into the bowl of his giant bong and inhaled it all in a single breath before exhaling a breath of smoke so large it covered the whole Ukrainian sky while saying "look at me, I'm the dragon of communism"
While that did cause a famine, to be fair it was really really funny
Easy to paint all Uighurs as enemies that need to be "saved" and "helped" by the "superior Han race" because some of them were extremists. You really don't think Uighurs as a whole were persecuted? This is like justifying when America detained random Muslims because the Nation of Islam existed.
Tf? Two things can be genocides you know.
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It's common sense knowledge. I literally learned about both the Holodomor and Uighur persecution in history and civics class in high school, and we touched on it in a couple college classes as well. I had a textbook literally headlined "Holodomor Genocide" or something, you think everything is just western propaganda?
Least brainwashed american
Sooo you're saying info taught from academic textbooks is all made up? Probably the type to dismiss education as "liberal propaganda" just like conservatives.
It really depends man, like in Poland right now academic textbooks are saying homosexuality is a modern de.gene.racy brought on by communist ideology.
Do you trust that your country will give you honest and unbiased info about its enemies?
Also you should read this book, it was linked earlier in the thread for you, don't forget it: https://www.iskrabooks.org/_files/ugd/ec1faf_2d8a8a045ef442a4bc367697d9231c01.pdf
My highschool civics classes taught that the annexation of Hawaii was the US stepping in to "restore democracy" and liberate the islands after American plantation owners established a junta with private mercenaries, alongside plenty of just trivial factual errors like claiming late 19th century American farmers were concerned over "inflation" when they were actually debtors worried over deflation. One of those classes literally taught the lie about progressive tax brackets meaning people who make more money end up with less as a fact. Highschool civics classes are literally just propaganda classes with textbooks written by far-right thinktanks.
My college poli-sci class literally taught that "socialism is when the government does stuff and when it does a lot that's communism."
Schooling and academia is plagued with errors, propaganda, and brainworms, whether those come from active institutional efforts to spread disinformation, shitty quality control from for-profit publishers, or teachers who are themselves ignorant or have brainworms.
Don't teachers over there sometimes refuse to even teach evolution properly? LOL gg America
No problem with education as an academic myself, but American education is kind of seen as a joke to us non-Americans. School shootings aren't exactly good for learning, and if you didn't want people accusing the American education system of propaganda its probably not a good look to make kids mindlessly chant to pledge submission your your god and a flag. Hope that helps!
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Maybe read into Uighur persecution from sources not written by the CCP. It's not my job to educate you.
Do you mind linking so we can educate ourselves? It's obvious that you read them and have easy access
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide
and before you play the "wikipedia" card, it's a good breakdown and all the citations are right there
When you know what you are posting is weak, why do so anyway?
Denying facts and logic huh?
Denying western hegemony and what it entails huh?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide
Denying what mass persecution entails huh?
Am I denying mass prosecution? No, if what you mean is racial profiling after as series of islamist extremist attscs.
Am I denying genocide? Well I haven't seen proof of it existing in the first place. And since burden of proof is on the claimant I'm waiting for a source (Sry Wikipedia won't suffice)
Here's a primary source for you:
'What Is The Empire's Strategy?' - Col Lawrence Wilkerson Speech At RPI Media & War Conference - Ron Paul Institute 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91wz5syVNZs How do you contextualize what is being said starting at ~22:20?
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You linked a few unreliable sources earlier without reading their contents so your facts and logic are inferior my son. Bernie will punish you when I send him my report.
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What in that users post that you rejected as propaganda had anything to do with the Uighurs or Holodomor. Like, you're wrong about those things and the facts are on our side on those issues, but I don't even care about that. And neither do you, they're just excuses to not engage with things intellectually for you. You dont give a fuck about Uighurs.
LMAO banger site tagline, Bernie would be proud of your contribution.
When they say something like "I'm not reading that propaganda!" or "Umm acktually, no u!" or "You're being rude to me! I'm not listening to you! Waaaah!" it's just a sign that they know they don't actually have a counter argument anymore. They know their position is one of smug ignorance, and they're just too pathetic to admit they might be wrong about something.
Reading?!
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That's really rude, you asked a question, someone gave you an answer, and then you dismiss the answer as propaganda without reading it because it's difficult to read. This isn't what Bernie would do.
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Incredible work
Lmfao
Cool then shut up
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Motherfucker I thought the other reply didn't send JFL
2.5% is the hunger rate of China according to your source. So I decided to look up the US and see how it compares. https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ag-and-food-statistics-charting-the-essentials/food-security-and-nutrition-assistance/
10% or in other words china is currently 4x better at feeding the hungry than the US is. 10% of 300+million is also around 30+million, so a comparable number but just out of an incomparably smaller population.
So you, following the advice of people who cannot get hunger below 10%, in a country with enough food waste to solve the problem, think that people on the other side of the world, whose hunger problem is only a quarter of your neighbors, should fix their hunger by growing LESS FOOD in favor of cash crops? Is that correct?
If I'm misrepresenting you please let me know
Whataboutism.
That isnt whataboutism, it is a comparison.
An unnecessary comparison. I'm talking about 1 in 40 Chinese people facing hunger, this has absolutely nothing to do with America.
It does because you're claiming that the system that America is the best example of: letting the free market run food security, is superior to what China is doing. This is an incorrect statement as proven by statistics.
Putting words in my mouth.
Also you used a different metric from the metric I used. China and America have the exact same (2.5%) hunger rate using the same source. Typical Hexbear lying.
What is this, if not support for a more laissez faire approach?
What is (33 million divided by 330 million) multiplied by 100?
You're using a different source than I used. Look at the US hunger rate under the same definition as the China hunger rate. Different sources have looser ways of defining hunger.
The united states government has a looser way of defining hunger in their own country than a shady investment website that doesnt even have https? Didn't they teach you how to choose reliable sources of information in highschool?
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The government could make them grow green rice but give them extra money to make up for it. Farmers deserve fair pay. Of course, the millionaires and billionaires of the CCP wouldn't want that.
Source?
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/01/business/china-parliament-billionaires.html
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Oops I assumed the CCP and parliament were the same thing. Anyways:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1746362/china-latest-communist-party-billionaires-spt
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41 billionaires in government is 41 too many for a """"socialist"""" state idiot.
Don't call people idiots, that's very rude and Bernie would be angry at you.
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Then immediately ban billionaires and redistribute the wealth. Not too fucking hard it's a dictatorship they can do whatever they want.
Why hasn't President Xi answered my request for Catgirls then? He said he'd fucking do it smh
No, like the implication that the government wont subsidizing or give benefits to the farmers who grow green rice. Because it sounds made up tbh
That is the dumbest fucking thing I’ve heard in my life.
Take the beam out of your own eye friend.
Nah it's pointing out how the approach you suggest (let the free market decide what's profitable to grow for food security) is inferior to what China is doing.
Ok but why are you so angry about people so far away from you when your neighbors are suffering more (at the hands of the people telling us what it's like 'over there's)
China, state whose economic decision you disagree with, hunger rate of 2.50% in a country of 1 billion people.
America, state whose free market approach to food security you generally agree with, hunger rate of 10% in a country with 1/3 the population.
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=E3598EPwqRA