Honestly like I made that big post about cooling it to avoid defederation and while I still think Ada is working in good faith the fucking 196 mod is just a complete radlib "anarcho"-mccarthyist pos, like leaking DMs is such a dick move, I'm kind of split between disliking some of the users for pulling shit like that and a degree of respect for the head mod for trying to build some trans solidarity despite all the shit she's had to put up with from her users and many of the more dunk hungry users on here
Having read Ada's actual mod statement on the third hexbear defederation thread I feel like and hope that maybe it'll work out but honestly at this point I kind of doubt it
Let's be real, if we had 3 active meta threads dedicated solely to blahaj.zone and mostly filled with people shitting on them, would they still be federated with us?
Idk why we need to treat them like extra special little babies so they'll do us the favor of associating with us. Fuck em
Its because we really want to be in solidarity with them as a trans community. But unfortunately some of them are really taking advantage of that. I completely agree we shouldn't be the only ones making concessions. The person accusing us of being fake queers absolutely 100% should have been banned.
no, you're right. but that's the thing: jokes aside, we used to be liberals. i wouldn't count the support i showed the trans community as a lib "solidarity". it was a liberal show of support (which can still be heartening to see!) but it's not solidarity of the sort that exists between comrades. (i'm sorry this is about as clear as cement but i can't effectively communicate what i mean any better bc )
I get what you are saying, but at worst we are getting new membership and allowing the libs to provide a live showing of how they are ultimately incapable of solidarity. I think it makes sense to sometimes support things because they will fail, like the USSR trying to join NATO to demonstrate that NATO was anticommunist and would reject them.
she'd really be better off just axing 196 rather than splitting the trans community. but yeah if it goes to a vote its gonna be gone, all the transphobes that have been left unbanned are gonna love to rig that up
the mod for 196 posted this https://hexbear.net/post/361826 but then it was removed by a mod rather than deleted by the person who posted it so idk, maybe there's some internal tension among the blahaj moderators about how to act regarding hexbear
god the thread there with @Nakoichi@hexbear.net is just so wild. people give him shit here for being an anarchist but the 196 libs give him shit for being a tankie
Every thing I see Moss do pushes me further and further away from 196. Ever since that stupid fucking incident where they defended a user being blatantly chasery/transphobic to the point that Ada had to step in.
Their actions just scream incompetence, and I'm convinced they're a 16yo that got in way too deep with a community the size of 196
196 was built and inhabited exclusively by chasers and pick-mes. Purging them would mean deleting the instance comm, so yeah they should do that as soon as possible please
Actually come to think of it, my view of 196 from its very earliest days was of aggressively lib, imperialist, status-quo upholding shitheads. Just full of chasers and younger femboy types who were either absolute pick-mes or just young'ins trying to fit in. In their worldview, all rights have been achieved and asking for anything more is radical and nonsensical. Just weird fetishists and their enablers. They're genuinely disgusting people.
I remember r/196 being pro-V*ush and getting really upset any time I called him a pedo and pointed out all the pedo shit he says, so this tracks. Not sure if this has changed with their migration to blahaj but I doubt it.
And using it as an excuse to denounce communism even though Cuba has better literacy rates than the US, lower homelessness, more doctors per capita, and lower infant mortality rate, all despite the embargo.
Yeah fuck blahaj tbh, that thread was depressing to read, there is no benefit to association with those people
Honestly like I made that big post about cooling it to avoid defederation and while I still think Ada is working in good faith the fucking 196 mod is just a complete radlib "anarcho"-mccarthyist pos, like leaking DMs is such a dick move, I'm kind of split between disliking some of the users for pulling shit like that and a degree of respect for the head mod for trying to build some trans solidarity despite all the shit she's had to put up with from her users and many of the more dunk hungry users on here
Yeah I really appreciate what Ada is doing but the 196 mod seems determined to do the opposite
Having read Ada's actual mod statement on the third hexbear defederation thread I feel like and hope that maybe it'll work out but honestly at this point I kind of doubt it
Let's be real, if we had 3 active meta threads dedicated solely to blahaj.zone and mostly filled with people shitting on them, would they still be federated with us?
Idk why we need to treat them like extra special little babies so they'll do us the favor of associating with us. Fuck em
Its because we really want to be in solidarity with them as a trans community. But unfortunately some of them are really taking advantage of that. I completely agree we shouldn't be the only ones making concessions. The person accusing us of being fake queers absolutely 100% should have been banned.
How about they deal with their Vaushite chaser comm and it's mod who leaked CARCOSA's DM and then we can talk.
the sad reality is that as much as we want this, there is no solidarity to be had with liberals.
I mostly agree but on the other hand, most of us were liberals once yeah?
no, you're right. but that's the thing: jokes aside, we used to be liberals. i wouldn't count the support i showed the trans community as a lib "solidarity". it was a liberal show of support (which can still be heartening to see!) but it's not solidarity of the sort that exists between comrades. (i'm sorry this is about as clear as cement but i can't effectively communicate what i mean any better bc
)
You made sense. It's like "thoughts and prayers" vs systemic solutions.
I get what you are saying, but at worst we are getting new membership and allowing the libs to provide a live showing of how they are ultimately incapable of solidarity. I think it makes sense to sometimes support things because they will fail, like the USSR trying to join NATO to demonstrate that NATO was anticommunist and would reject them.
she posted an update saying she'll give it a week and put up a vote, so I'm pretty sure we're getting defederated.
she'd really be better off just axing 196 rather than splitting the trans community. but yeah if it goes to a vote its gonna be gone, all the transphobes that have been left unbanned are gonna love to rig that up
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leaking DMs?
the mod for 196 posted this https://hexbear.net/post/361826 but then it was removed by a mod rather than deleted by the person who posted it so idk, maybe there's some internal tension among the blahaj moderators about how to act regarding hexbear
god the thread there with @Nakoichi@hexbear.net is just so wild. people give him shit here for being an anarchist but the 196 libs give him shit for being a tankie
no winning, friend
lol
I'm used to it honestly.
The One True Centrist
lol I make this joke so often. I am just trying to build bridges.
we appreciate you
I appreciate you!
mfw even our anarchist users are being called tankies
Being a tankie is when you recognise the contribution of communists in the third world according to them.
Every thing I see Moss do pushes me further and further away from 196. Ever since that stupid fucking incident where they defended a user being blatantly chasery/transphobic to the point that Ada had to step in.
Their actions just scream incompetence, and I'm convinced they're a 16yo that got in way too deep with a community the size of 196
ok wtf, why? what happened?
There was a post on lemmy.world/c/memes or something that posed the question
and a user responded (and i'm paraphrasing a bit here, but not by much)
Which obviously set off some red flags. The discussion drifted over to 196 and then moss responded by posting this:
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The whole thing lead to a post full of genital preference discourse and that's never fun.
196 was built and inhabited exclusively by chasers and pick-mes. Purging them would mean deleting the
instancecomm, so yeah they should do that as soon as possible pleaseActually come to think of it, my view of 196 from its very earliest
days was of aggressively lib, imperialist, status-quo upholding shitheads. Just full of chasers and younger femboy types who were either absolute pick-mes or just young'ins trying to fit in. In their worldview, all rights have been achieved and asking for anything more is radical and nonsensical. Just weird fetishists and their enablers. They're genuinely disgusting people.
I remember r/196 being pro-V*ush and getting really upset any time I called him a pedo and pointed out all the pedo shit he says, so this tracks. Not sure if this has changed with their migration to blahaj but I doubt it.
the whole instance isn't 196. blahaj is primarily a trans instance.
Sorry, I meant comm
in that case, agreed.
It was my impression that there was also a fair number of very young trans people who couldn't really be said to know any better
That was me and yea, basically
I'm glad you've grown, comrade
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how is this a moderator
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Imagine hating on Cuba when nearly all negative issues can be attributed to the blockade as of now.
And using it as an excuse to denounce communism even though Cuba has better literacy rates than the US, lower homelessness, more doctors per capita, and lower infant mortality rate, all despite the embargo.
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frankly you should make this a separate post in the dunk tank, cw it for transphobia
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