Apparently to them the advanced metallurgy of benin, the kingdom of nri, great fulo, mali, ghana, songhai, alodia, great zimbabwe, kongo, the sand houses of zanj sea, kanem-bornu, etc… are somehow not-worthy or like not “advanced enough”?
do you have any favorite sources for African history? or is it mainly like wiki-walking, forums, and googling, and just like ambient absorption from the internet?
like, I've been listening to Blowback and I keep thinking about how long it would take me to gather all that information without the podcast.
googling "precolonial africa gay" is already really illuminating and i've only just started.
i'm looking at this and there are so many promising terms to google in it https://daily.jstor.org/the-deviant-african-genders-that-colonialism-condemned/
anyway thanks for pointing me in this direction, it's fascinating
Its more like target research into a topic when I know I want to know about a certain country/person, with a few amount of randomly searching through the internet haha. There is often a lack of variety of sources sadly.
There is some good stuff by the
https://historyofafricapodcast.blogspot.com/2021/03/?m=0 History of Africa podcast however.
I kinda figured the whole joke about Huey was that while he's going in the sorta-right direction with regard to his age, he always goes about it in over-the-top and ultimately futile ways that really makes him no different from homeboy him and Riley were shading with the awful poetry at Mo's funeral.
I'm curious about your experience with people who say that. Its it anything other than the fact that the statement is fundamentally classist because buying GMO-free or non-processed foods is materially impossible for most working-class people?
I have pretty big criticisms to GMOs because I think their use has and will lead to the further precarization of food systems, the erasure of indigenous foodways and untold amounts of stress on soils and ecosystems. People who oppose GMOs on a "health" basis are a bit silly, in my opinion.
If you're interested, I'd like to talk more some other time (I'm ungodly busy and tired all the time right now) on the "being anti-GMOs is anti-intellectualism/science" bit, because as I've said before, food scholarship, and food activism are my chosen field of struggle, and I think there are good conversations to be had there.
I think many parts of movements for/about food have had the misfortune of getting started by privileged white people, and putting their concerns over basic humanity. But there are plenty of food-related movements like La Via Campesina who oppose GMOs on a political and ideological level, so we shouldn't be throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
Couldn't have said it better, so . I understand that GMOs aren't likely to be directly harmful to eat, but the longer-term effects on the wider ecosystem is the real (and thoroughly not studied nor understood) concern.
Oof, that was the stuff they hilariously claimed you could safely drink by the gallon, then refused to drink. Very good point that I've not considered before!
I didn't want to go into "one health" or "ecosystemic health is human health" concepts because I felt it would derail the conversation, but I think they're important to take into account.
I think it is fundamentally eurocentric to consider that the agricultural and food systems in which one lives aren't deeply linked to one's wellbeing, and that the indiscriminate use of GMOs couldn't have an effect on that.
There's alot of specific ways specific GMOs suck and of course Monsanto gets the wall for shit like round up and the abuse of termination genes (great for research, terrible for farmers)
But so often the protesters are out against something like a scientific research project on soil redmediation, or of course the Golden Rice debacle.
I always knew I was getting the wall, but i didn't realise to would be so soon
(I did Keto with a pretty severe calorie deficit and lost 35kg, which I kept off for a year. I then went to America for a holiday/got married, got plantar fasciitis from social sport that stopped me from walking comfortably and COVID happened and I put 40kg back on lmao)
please please please be safe and get your blood checked regularly when doing fad diets
yeah, I was and already was getting checkups and my bloods done decently regularly because my blood pressure and cholesterol were already shit before 2018 when i did it
I am nowhere near it now because I am, to say it politely, a gourmand
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Particularly annoying since the entire 25th Dynasty of Egypt was actually black.
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Apparently to them the advanced metallurgy of benin, the kingdom of nri, great fulo, mali, ghana, songhai, alodia, great zimbabwe, kongo, the sand houses of zanj sea, kanem-bornu, etc… are somehow not-worthy or like not “advanced enough”?
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do you have any favorite sources for African history? or is it mainly like wiki-walking, forums, and googling, and just like ambient absorption from the internet?
like, I've been listening to Blowback and I keep thinking about how long it would take me to gather all that information without the podcast.
also @Sinister@hexbear.net because you mentioned a bunch of cool-sounding stuff
I know a little bit but I really wish I knew more.
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googling "precolonial africa gay" is already really illuminating and i've only just started.
i'm looking at this and there are so many promising terms to google in it https://daily.jstor.org/the-deviant-african-genders-that-colonialism-condemned/
anyway thanks for pointing me in this direction, it's fascinating
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Its more like target research into a topic when I know I want to know about a certain country/person, with a few amount of randomly searching through the internet haha. There is often a lack of variety of sources sadly. There is some good stuff by the https://historyofafricapodcast.blogspot.com/2021/03/?m=0 History of Africa podcast however.
That link was super interesting and I had never heard of any of that, thanks for the rec! I’ll be checking them out
No thanks needed!
I don't mean to disagree but
"Jesus was black
Ronald Reagan was the devil
and the government is lying about 9/11"
is a based take because Huey Freeman is probably the most based character in mainstream animation.
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Mansa Musa is a boring figure. He was just some rich dude. Compare him with the founder of the Mali Empire and his grand-uncle Sundiata Keita.
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I kinda figured the whole joke about Huey was that while he's going in the sorta-right direction with regard to his age, he always goes about it in over-the-top and ultimately futile ways that really makes him no different from homeboy him and Riley were shading with the awful poetry at Mo's funeral.
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I'm curious about your experience with people who say that. Its it anything other than the fact that the statement is fundamentally classist because buying GMO-free or non-processed foods is materially impossible for most working-class people?
I have pretty big criticisms to GMOs because I think their use has and will lead to the further precarization of food systems, the erasure of indigenous foodways and untold amounts of stress on soils and ecosystems. People who oppose GMOs on a "health" basis are a bit silly, in my opinion.
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I see, thanks for explaining!
If you're interested, I'd like to talk more some other time (I'm ungodly busy and tired all the time right now) on the "being anti-GMOs is anti-intellectualism/science" bit, because as I've said before, food scholarship, and food activism are my chosen field of struggle, and I think there are good conversations to be had there.
I think many parts of movements for/about food have had the misfortune of getting started by privileged white people, and putting their concerns over basic humanity. But there are plenty of food-related movements like La Via Campesina who oppose GMOs on a political and ideological level, so we shouldn't be throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
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it'd be cool if your future conversation was public because i'm interested too
Couldn't have said it better, so . I understand that GMOs aren't likely to be directly harmful to eat, but the longer-term effects on the wider ecosystem is the real (and thoroughly not studied nor understood) concern.
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Oof, that was the stuff they hilariously claimed you could safely drink by the gallon, then refused to drink. Very good point that I've not considered before!
this is all pretty new to me tbh, are we getting harmful levels of exposure just from eating produce or is this more about acute exposure?
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I didn't want to go into "one health" or "ecosystemic health is human health" concepts because I felt it would derail the conversation, but I think they're important to take into account.
I think it is fundamentally eurocentric to consider that the agricultural and food systems in which one lives aren't deeply linked to one's wellbeing, and that the indiscriminate use of GMOs couldn't have an effect on that.
There's alot of specific ways specific GMOs suck and of course Monsanto gets the wall for shit like round up and the abuse of termination genes (great for research, terrible for farmers)
But so often the protesters are out against something like a scientific research project on soil redmediation, or of course the Golden Rice debacle.
I always knew I was getting the wall, but i didn't realise to would be so soon
(I did Keto with a pretty severe calorie deficit and lost 35kg, which I kept off for a year. I then went to America for a holiday/got married, got plantar fasciitis from social sport that stopped me from walking comfortably and COVID happened and I put 40kg back on lmao)
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yeah, I was and already was getting checkups and my bloods done decently regularly because my blood pressure and cholesterol were already shit before 2018 when i did it
I am nowhere near it now because I am, to say it politely, a gourmand
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Oh fuck.
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Nah, no worries, I don't follow it anymore, but while I was I took a salt supplement with potassium. Ended it because it just made life too difficult
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I did the version of keto where you just don't eat bread or sugary food. I think it was adequately sloppy enough to prevent any chudification
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holy fuck i'm so sorry, from your reaction earlier today I thought you'd been on the diet
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I gotta say I'm disappointed to hear that one. It tracks, but I've always liked how much it upset my most racist relatives
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I don't understand how more people aren't offended that Jesus is depicted as an Italian.
The MSG thing is so wild to me, why is that a thing??? It's such a good ingredient
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