https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukrainian-military-officer-coordinated-nord-stream-pipeline-attack/ar-AA1jLI1c

  • zephyreks [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Clear bullshit, right?

    If Ukraine could pull this off, I could pull this off. I refuse to believe that international infrastructure could be so vulnerable.

    • Bassword
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      1 year ago

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      • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        I mean to be fair if you can afford to be a WH40k fan you probably have the resources of a mid-sized Eastern European country.

      • zephyreks [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        a six-person team that rented a sailboat under false identities and used deep-sea diving equipment to place explosive charges on the gas pipelines

        I doubt I could do it without getting caught, but the fact that I could cripple Europe's economy with a sailboat and a few explosives is terrifying.

        • KarlBarqs [he/him, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          Even that story is bullshit, because the boat they tracked as being the rented one is relatively small, and they'd brought on several thousand pounds worth of explosives.

          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            That's something a person could viably become. I think the point is that there was a lack of institutional power or actual military equipment or anything else beyond the reach of an individual being used here.

            "But thousands of pounds of explosives"

            Yeah, that's probably the hardest part, but it's not like any of it was particularly artisanal.

          • zephyreks [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            The HCOB Eurozone Manufacturing PMI came in at 43.1 in October 2023, down from 43.4 in September and compared with a preliminary estimate of 43. This marked the sixteenth consecutive month that the Eurozone's manufacturing sector has been in contraction territory, and the sharpest in three months

          • GaveUp [she/her]
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            1 year ago

            China's, their economy is gonna collapse within the next decade you CCP shill

    • WayeeCool [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Won't know until in a few decades it all gets declassified but my bet was always a US Navy Special Warfare team, aka SEAL team. That is who the US uses for such operations. Previous week there had been US Navy units doing exercises in the general area. The level of hostility, type of aggressive narrative control, and how key US outlets were already standing ready to suppress certain details made it suspicious from the start.

      The US uses the same playbook again and again, makes people suspicious even when the US might not have been involved in events.

    • Catfish [she/her]@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 year ago

      You would be surprised what you can do. Most of the time the only things that prevent people from doing actions like this are societal convention or the feeling that you have too much to lose. These fears are compounded by copaganda that convinces you that detectives will ultimately find out that it was you that committed the act. The truth is that anyone who is knowledgeable and possesses certain resources can perform acts like this with only a small group of people and get away with it, maybe not always with a clean record though.

      • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        all the targets i would want to fedposting are high profile enough that they'd have the competent spooks looking into it

        like if you get a militia together you can probably liberate a concentration camp but nobody is getting away with that

    • 7bicycles [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I mean it's still a state. Lot easier to forge all kinds of documents and get stuff if you'rea already a state.

        • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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          1 year ago

          If you can talk the US into turning a blind eye you can pull off a lot

      • 420stalin69
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        1 year ago

        The amount of explosives and specialist diving equipment required to do this is actually not trivial.

        The idea half a dozen dudes did this in a small yacht is laughable.

        The nato ships doing “exercises” to “train” for exactly this type of operation that were in the exact area about 2 weeks beforehand is the immensely more plausible explanation, which points to the UK and USA, probably with the cooperation of Denmark since it was just near to their waters and observation area.