Interview starts at 4:08:02 in the VOD

Context: Media is putting out articles like

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/epv74k/everything-we-know-about-timhouthi-chalamet-the-yemeni-influencer-celebrating-red-sea-ship-raids , so Hasan talked to him directly

Important: Hasan asks if he knows what One Piece is https://clips.twitch.tv/ExcitedSparklyRamenWoofer-Kdnimydpec0yxUYR

  • sovietknuckles [they/them]
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    11 months ago

    reddit-logo is very unhappy

    Hasan is currently livestreaming with an actual Houthi terrorist (according to US Govt.)

    this is levels of: "america bad" that I never thought possible plus the clout goblin brain, he's such a lolcow cringelord

    Hasan asks Houthi pirate whether they watch One Piece

    Yea idk, Hasan is cute-washing a literal terrorist on the biggest streaming platform. You can like or dislike Hasan, but he’s cute/funny-washing a terrorist to a young audience.

    How long until he gets an Isis terrorist on stream to ask him whether he prefers Pokémon or Naruto?

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      11 months ago

      repeating "terrorist" over and over again like a thought-terminating talisman, get fucked cracker

      Ansar Allah are the legitimate government of Yemen and cannot be terrorists because they are state actors

      even if they were they're doing it stop a genocide. these racists think political violence is only okay if you're a white landowner wearing a powdered wig in the 18th century

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        11 months ago

        It's also the most burger brained zero history knowledge assertion, that a naval blockade = terrorism. Blockades have always been part of war. A naval blockade by the Union was part of defeating the Confederacy in the US civil war, yet you won't see burger brains calling Abraham Lincoln a terrorist.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        11 months ago

        repeating "terrorist" over and over again like a thought-terminating talisman, get fucked cracker

        Same technique as "woke" and "tankie".

        We need to formalise this tactic in language and popularise it in order to drastically undercut its ability to be used. By formalising it as a bad thing (like fallacy shit) the libs and debatebros start calling it out when they see it. This way we could weaken its ability to be used considerably.

        • emizeko [they/them]
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          11 months ago

          I 've encountered the term "thought-terminating cliché" a few times, that's the best I got off the top of my head and why I did a variation

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            11 months ago

            Yeah it's slowly popularising by itself, but I am not aware of this phrase being picked up by any orgs or academically yet. That's where we need to get it. We need some people to write about the phenomenon/tactic itself so that those articles can then be pointed to as sources for its existence, and then wiki and other shit can get made for it to further cement it as a recognised formal language thing. From that point onwards it's just a matter of repeatedly pointing to the articles and shit to spread it more and more and more. It'll take on a life of its own and considerably wreck the tactic.

            I think this is actually really worthwhile doing as it's one of the most common tactics of the US information and thought control system.

    • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      this is levels of: "america bad" that I never thought possible plus the clout goblin brain, he's such a lolcow cringelord

      Why do they talk like this? And if facilitating a genocide isn't enough to make America bad, then I guess these people really do just believe that America can never be bad.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      11 months ago

      The guy isn't a terrorist he's literally a teenager that made TikTok videos on a boat, he's probably hot even Houthi, lmao redditors are so racist any Arab = terrorist to them. By that definition, every chud or liberal who posts pictures of themself on Facebook with an AR-15 and supports the actions of the US government is a terrorist.

      Also even if he was a Houthi militant, how is a naval blockade terrorism? Were Abraham Lincoln and the Union terrorists when they enforced a naval blockade against the confederacy to stop their cotton exports? Were the allies in WW2 terrorists for enforcing a blockade against Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Imperial Japan? Absolutely ridiculous assertion. Blockades have always been part of war.

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        11 months ago

        More like racism. War on terror propaganda really did a number on the zoomers and younger millenials, they think any Arab man = terrorist. These kids played too much call of duty and watched too many crappy American war movies, the propaganda has been internalised to the point they don't even realise it anymore. The propaganda is so entrenched that Israel had to commit literal genocide against Palestinians for the younger generations in the West to support the people of Palestine.

        If this guy is a "terrorist", so is every American that supports the US government and has posed with a gun on social media, by their own logic.

    • mayo_cider [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      I liked how Hasan tried to humanize the guy just as much as he tried to get a perspective on geopolitics, he's still a 19 years old kid

      I saw some comments how he must be media trained because he mostly side-stepped personal questions and focused on "free Palestine", but these people have never talked to someone (especially a politically active teenager) with actual conviction

      • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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        11 months ago

        Most redditors havent talked to anyone except other redditors and redditor-shaped people

      • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        Also they were talking through a translator and some of the questions were probably lost

    • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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      11 months ago

      Fuck the Destiny fans in that thread. Those people think listening to a divorced deadbeat dad from bumfuck Nebraska makes them political scholars.

      • mayo_cider [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        Call me accelerationist, but I'd prefer if all Destiny/Vaush fans were all just average conservatives

        The politics wouldn't change, but at least they'd be less annoying

        • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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          11 months ago

          Destiny's more or less is. Their talking points aren't all that different from what you'd hear on MSNBC or FOX.

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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          11 months ago

          but I'd prefer if all Destiny/Vaush fans were all just average conservatives

          They are though. They want to conserve the capitalist status quo bit with a few smiley face band-aids to keep the cracks sealed

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      God I hope America keeps losing footing on the global stage and the veil drops enough that people complaining about "America bad" are mercilessly dunked on for pointing out the obvious.

      It's the "are we the baddies" meme but it's been happening for decades and they immeidatly reassure themselves they aren't.

    • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      The man he interviewed never confirmed they were Ansarallah officially or a fighter, and the “piracy” he did was going to a tourist attraction and posting a tiktok. He’s literally just a normal Yemeni. If he’s a “terrorist” then every single Yemeni person is

      • WIIHAPPYFEW [he/him, they/them]
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        11 months ago

        If he’s a “terrorist” then every single Yemeni person is

        I mean, that’s the case as far as the reddit-logo consensus thinks

        • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          Sure but they should be called out for this racism and have it pointed out to them. They just all immediately assumed he was a “terrorist” because he’s from Yemen

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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      11 months ago

      How long until he gets an Isis terrorist on stream

      Why would he invite an Israeli freedom fighter on stream?

    • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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      11 months ago

      I wish we had a platform from which we could brigade those fuckin racist dorks

    • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      Fuck ISIS, but now I'm genuinely curious which they'd pick. Goddamnit.