Action that never stops, decent commie themes, very original story, and amazing effects. I guess they didn't need to make the main protagonist a white dude, otherwise it's the one film I can watch again and again.

Am I allowed to post links pirate sites or is that banned??

  • the_itsb [she/her, comrade/them]
    hexbear
    25
    4 months ago

    I watched this with my husband at home after months of hearing hype about it. We have no prior experience with Mad Max anything, except knowledge of the general style vibe that has permeated the culture. We laughed in astonishment and confusion for most of the movie, and at the end wondered what the fuck. We have always meant to revisit it, but never gotten around to it.

    I would love to drink of your Mad Max koolaid. Help my autistic brain understand what the fuck I watched and why everyone continues to be so fucking stoked about it?

    I know they did a lot of practical effects in a way that is basically unheard of anymore, and that's the one tiny part of the reverence that I understand and share. I am dying to get in on the rest of it. Would any of you like to just go the fuck off about it or is there a blog post I should read?

    • FourteenEyes [he/him]
      hexbear
      33
      4 months ago

      There is a dude whose official job is HYPE MAN and he rides around on a giant speaker setup and plays a heavy metal guitar that is also a flamethrower

      What do you not understand

    • ButtBidet [he/him]
      hexagon
      hexbear
      23
      4 months ago

      Not everyone needs to vibe to a movie. I've seen stuff that everyone was raving about and felt nothing. Like Juno didn't do anything for me, although the expectation that everyone loved it probably didn't help. Also maybe this isn't your thing. I'm in my mid-forties, and I know that my comrades in their twenties can't fucking sit through a whole movie, and that's fine. Also maybe you haven't a high expectation didn't help.

      I guess I've had such low expectations for films, they're always such lib pieces of shit. Whereas Fury Road at least had patriarchal white men as the reason that everyone was fucked, and the rejection of all that as the way things are gonna get better. The film references the US oil wars, and frequently asks the question "who destroyed the world". It's pretty obvious that militaristic dudes destroyed the world, although it doesn't explicitly answer that.

      Honestly you don't have to like it.

      • Outdoor_Catgirl [she/her, they/them]
        hexbear
        26
        4 months ago

        It asks, "who killed the world?" And it answers: patriarchy (immortal Joe and his desire to recapture the wives), greed and oil(the corpulent guy in the limo truck from gas town), and militarism(the bullet farmer in his tank)

        • FlakesBongler [they/them]
          hexbear
          21
          edit-2
          4 months ago

          corpulent guy in the limo truck from gas town

          Dude is literally named The People Eater

          You cannot get more on-the-nose than that and I love it

    • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
      hexbear
      23
      edit-2
      4 months ago

      The movie's ridiculous presentation hides its fairly sophisticated inner workings. I'm not claiming it's high art, but it's not just pure stupid action a la Transformers or something. There is a lot of interesting storytelling happening just through careful attention to detail, and it's almost a case study in "show, don't tell"*. For example, we know a lot more about Furiosa than you'd expect. She's a capo in this horrific, misogynistic tyrant's society. Towards the end of the film, Max asks her what she's hoping for and she just answers "Redemption". The look in her eye tells us the rest. These little pieces are deliberately placed - we don't know the exact details of how she went from kidnapped slave girl to commander in the Immortan's forces, but we can figure out enough of it.

      Or, let's look at Max's changes throughout the movie. He starts off deranged, disheveled, covered in matted hair - feral, in a word. Then he's captured and literally caged. He's got a muzzle on for the first third of the movie! He gets free, lashes out, and is slowly tamed by Furiosa and the other women. Ultimately he ends up helping two generations of women fight back against the tyrant who ruined their collective lives. I don't want to say that this has a direct meaning (something like "oh he's learning how to shed toxic masculinity and be a better ally!), since I think that literal interpretations tend to detract from emotional depth. Themes in story are best when they're expressing feeling and not a literal message. There is a lot going on with gender conflict. From the repeated "Who killed the world?!", to the obvious level of the wives fleeing the big gross dude, the one war boy slowly realizing he's just another foot soldier for a man who doesn't care about him, to the greater susceptibility of men to follow dangerous men to destructive ends while women seem more resistant to that.

      Come to think of it, Fury Road is best compared to Chainsaw Man. The manga and anime are about a lot of things - the struggles of growing up poor in Japan's lost generation, a government that explicitly views you as an animal to be used for their own ends, the corrosive nature of workplace politics, cynical sexuality used for manipulation, and more. It's also about a man who is a fucking chainsaw. Ridiculous, over-the-top action serving as the capstone to a carefully planned world and story.

      *I happen to think that "Show, don't tell" is overused as storytelling advice, but the execution here is flawless.

      • ButtBidet [he/him]
        hexagon
        hexbear
        3
        4 months ago

        I happen to think that "Show, don't tell" is overused as storytelling advice, but the execution here is flawless.

        Dunno, but I keep seeing films fail at this, so I think it's worth being said.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
      hexbear
      22
      4 months ago

      Mad Max is more vibes than Lore. The only other one I'd really recommend is Road Warrior, it's the Ur post apocalyptic movie and is a prototype for fury Road in many ways restrained by budget and the time it was made but has a more slow and realistic and brutal vibe. Fury Road is a lot ore fantasy feeling, Road Warrior is grim as hell.

    • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
      hexbear
      21
      4 months ago

      it's cool. it rules. it fuckin slaps. explosions, racing, overthrowing a reactionary tyrant. the real journey is the friends we made along the way (also seizing the means of water)

    • Nakoichi [he/him]
      hexbear
      21
      4 months ago

      Mad max road warrior and beyond thunderdome watch those too

      Basically climate cataclysm leaves a wasteland ruled by warlords who taken over the last sources of water and power. Max was a cop in the first film which is more pre-apocalyptic and is set in Australia.

      • HexBroke [any, comrade/them]
        hexbear
        7
        4 months ago

        Fury road is set in Australia (but filmed in Namibia so you don't get the 4 billion year old rust red sands)

    • buttwater [they/them]
      hexbear
      20
      4 months ago

      I grew up with the movies and my mom loved mel gibson (lol) so they have tremendous memorable value for me. But the bleakness of the scenery, the harshness of the people, the will to survive despite it all, it captured a real mood that people connect with. The wardrobe choices and sick automobiles made it even cooler.

      The new one captured the original mood, tied it to current themes, and nailed the cinematography

      • ChaosMaterialist [he/him]
        hexbear
        20
        4 months ago

        The wardrobe choices and sick automobiles made it even cooler.

        Mad Max 2 practically codified post-apocalypse vibes and fashion.

      • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
        hexbear
        10
        4 months ago

        you should try Kin Dza Dza

        low budget russian mad max sort of thing

        it's a bit slow to start but it really settles you into their bizarre world

    • Tunnelvision [they/them]
      hexbear
      11
      4 months ago

      Did you not think the movie was good? My wife and I were in the same boat as you when we saw it and we loved it.