https://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1759623139091243242

Social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism

Death to fascists

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    10 months ago

    You just blow in from stupid town or is this a bad sarcasm bit?

    To clarify, Bernie Sanders supported NATO bombing Yugoslavia with the rationale of preventing genocide, he has never to my knowledge apologized or disagreed with this since then, he has a history of being willing to physically bomb a people to stop genocide, yet now he balks at sanctions(which he also is very happy to deploy, unless they are geopolitically inconvenient to him.)

    • infinitevalence@discuss.online
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      10 months ago

      Did you know that the most powerful way to win over people and debate effectively is to open up with an ad hominem?

      Bernie is a human, and like most of us has been on the wrong side of things in the past, he is not on the wrong side here, but he does not have the support or backing to do more than use strong words.

      • oregoncom [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        Begging the Question. Appeal to Emotion. Fallacy Fallacy. Slothful Induction. Appeal to Nature.

      • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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        10 months ago

        he does not have the support or backing to do more than use strong words.

        He didn't even use words like "genocide" and "ethnic cleansing". What's he's doing is worse than useless because it doesn't rock the boat and libs don't get mad and they can entirely ignore him.

      • Egon
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        4 months ago

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      • Maoo [none/use name]
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        10 months ago

        You ever just wake up in the morning and think, "yeah I'll run interference for genocide supporters"?

        Couldn't be me.

        • idkmybffjoeysteel [he/him]
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          10 months ago

          I knew a guy that had a chart of logical fallacies they would point to and show off. They had a collage of their favourite men as their computer desktop background as well, faces like Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson. It was for inspiration.

      • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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        10 months ago

        What putting a timeline on another person's freedom does to a mf. If you were under the gun, you wouldn't have much tolerance for the devil's advocate. Letting people pontificate about the morality of genocide got us to this point in the first place. To what end would you try and win over an advocate of genocide? You don't actually debate a hostage taker or try to win them over. You don't actually entertain the idea that they had a point in putting an innocent person in a violent situation. Empathy might be a tactic in the strategy in order to expropriate the hostage taker from the victims like getting the hostage taker to admit they're in over their head. Bernie clearly doesn't have an overarching strategy of frustrating Israel's capacity to enslave Gaza. If the frame is anything but Israel should be made to yield then you're playing games with people's lives and it's sad that someone once told you that it's okay to do that

      • O__O [none/use name]
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        10 months ago

        But he didn’t use strong words. He bloviated in a way that makes liberals think he did, but he carefully avoided actually doing it.