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  • ashinadash [she/her]
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    4 months ago
    Okay listen, webzone:

    Do you wish you could wear more androgynous or gender-neutral clothing? Do you feel awkward or uncomfortable as your agab in your agab’s typical clothes?

    For one why is this framed around agab. What happens if I transed to something else and then am gonna become none biney? Also what happens if I equally want to wear dorky oversized men's clothes and also like, skirts? What then?????

    Do you wish you could be seen as more androgynous, with gender-neutral traits? Do you want to wake up tomorrow in an androgynous body?

    Look, website, being nb is not innately about just being in the fucking middle of the binary gender spectrum! Also no! What happens if I like my body now huh??? Do NBs have to medically transition????????

    Do you wish people would call you “they” or “them”, or refer to you in more gender-neutral ways?

    No, lmao. Don't mind it but I fuck with she/her cause I'm a dork. NBs use all kinds of pronouns.

    I suspect that these issues stem from it being a hasty rewrite of turn-me-into-a-girl.com, but this misses the mark for me sooooo hard. Doesn't even try to address the absolute spectrum of nonbinary presentation or identity, it's like whoever wrote it never read Gender Outlaw. I'm sorry, chat...

    • khizuo [ze/zir]
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      4 months ago

      Yeah... don't really love how they're centering one rather narrow type of nonbinary gender experience.

      • ashinadash [she/her]
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        4 months ago

        Right, being none biney is so much broader than that!! All kinds of cool possibilities this doesn't explore. You hate to see it.

        • khizuo [ze/zir]
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          4 months ago

          It's funny, I actually started enjoying wearing dresses and skirts for the first time in my life after I came out. I'm not really a fan of what's generally considered "androgynous" style for people that have been coercively assigned "female" at birth. It's overwhelmingly just... masculine clothing? Why is masculine clothing always viewed as the default for androgyny, and not feminine clothing??? Hmm... could it be misogyny...

          Anyways I like being able to wear whatever I want and not feeling gendered by it.

          • ashinadash [she/her]
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            4 months ago

            blob-no-thoughts Na I'm sure it would never be misogyny, again! No way!!

            Yeah clothes really should be degendered across the board, sillyass concept.

            • khizuo [ze/zir]
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              4 months ago

              I like that clothes can be an awesome source of gender euphoria, and I think that what I've realized is that for me, all kinds of clothes can give me gender euphoria. Which is fun because I get to build my beautiful and weird wardrobe (mostly) worry-free (there are a few articles of clothing that do give me dysphoria, but hey, they're easy enough to avoid.)

      • ashinadash [she/her]
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        4 months ago

        It's just not that good, it wouldn't have convinced me. I'm not interested in being halfway between masc and fem; I'm more interested in not fucking around with binary gender, the weird expectations, the things people assume if they think "woman". I am also slightly deranged and kind of against the gender binary in its current capitalist form so there's that too. This site is just like "oooooo u can be androgynous!" Not me soz!

    • QueerCommie [she/her, fae/faer]
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      4 months ago

      Should be like: “would you like to do things not traditionally associated with your agab, but you don’t necessarily want to associate with the “opposite” one?