the vibes have rotten to the core and now withholding for Palestine makes you the much-maligned single issue voter, as if genocide is just a tally on a fucking pro/con balance sheet. People who saw the mass movement and protests on the ground over the past nine months suddenly concern-trolling about no one ever organizing anything and just being nihilists doing nothing while they are doing, in contrast, 'the bare minimum'. Breaking out reformist thought-terminating cliches and yelling at people with families in Palestine for not immediately being invested and engaged in the campaign of the VP of the current administration that is aiding and abetting the deaths of their loved ones. Total lanyard cultural victory. Americans by and large believe in nothing and have no principles, all they want is eternal 2014.

Hindenburg vs. Hitler then, Hindenburg vs. Hitler now, Hindenburg vs. Hitler forever doomjak

  • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
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    2 months ago

    At this point I'm growing to hate liberals more than I hate conservatives. Conservatives openly embrace their evil and don't pretend to be anything else; Liberals pretend they're good people and get very upset when you point out that the things they support (cough cough, genocide) are evil, whereas conservatives say "hell yeah we love murdering {insert racial slur}" and then nobody minds when you throw rocks at them.

    • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      We've all read it but this MLK passage came to mind when I read your comment and vigorously agreed that I hate the American liberal's politics more than the American conservative's:

      I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.”

        • Kolibri [she/her]
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          2 months ago

          Malcolm X also has a good quote about this to and relates to what you said.

          The white conservatives aren't friends of the Negro either, but they at least don't try to hide it. They are like wolves; they show their teeth in a snarl that keeps the Negro always aware of where he stands with them. But the white liberals are foxes, who also show their teeth to the Negro but pretend that they are smiling. The white liberals are more dangerous than the conservatives; they lure the Negro, and as the Negro runs from the growling wolf, he flees into the open jaws of the "smiling" fox.”

          • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
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            2 months ago

            God damn this is perfect and feels so relatable. It feels kind of heartbreaking that I didn't read this when I was a child, it might have helped.

          • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
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            2 months ago

            I keep thinking about this quote, it's so good. I can't find it anywhere online and want to share it with people; do you have a link?

            • Kolibri [she/her]
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              2 months ago

              It's from Malcolm X's "God's Judgement of White America (The Chickens Come Home to Roost)" speech in 1963. It is hard to find, and like going to audio portions for it, I could only find one small audio snip it that speech. But here a few links to the transcribed speech.

              http://www.malcolm-x.org/speeches/spc_120463.htm

              https://www.icit-digital.org/articles/malcolm-x-on-god-s-judgement-of-white-america-december-4-1963

              https://blackcommentator.com/278/278_malcolm_printer_friendly.html (This one leaves out the Nation of Islam stuff in the beginning of his speech and gets into like the general gist of the speech)

              https://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtid=3&psid=3619 (this one just cites the malcolm-x org website, and they mistakenly link to the wrong speech)

    • Hohsia [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      This lesser of two evils thing is starting to get philosophical isn’t it

      • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
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        2 months ago

        For real. I can't even tell which side is more evil now. Maybe the nature and expression of their evil is slightly different, but it sums up to about the same magnitude of evil overall.

    • Wakmrow [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      Actually, hilariously conservatives think they're good people too

      • EelBolshevikism [none/use name]
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        2 months ago

        Yeah I'm not sure if I agree with the "liberals are deceptive but conservatives aren't" logic, they're both entirely committed to lying blatantly and gaslighting massive portions of the population

        • CommunistCuddlefish [she/her]
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          2 months ago

          Maybe it just feels that way to me because I have been taken in by liberals' false nicety but have not been fooled by conservatives because they're so obviously evil

          • EelBolshevikism [none/use name]
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            2 months ago

            Yeah, I think it's just that conservatives don't appear to be hiding to us, but to your average person they're actually sometimes convincing. Terrifying

    • rootsbreadandmakka [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      I tend to hate conservatives more than liberals, but most of the liberals I know are more the confused apolitical not fantastic politics but also not totally shitty people type. But then something like this happens and I'm exposed to the epic redditor or the back to brunch crowd and I remember just how absolutely insufferable liberals can be. Out of touch, pretentious, and so confidently wrong about everything. Can't these people get like one win without just turning into the most insufferable people on the planet?