the vibes have rotten to the core and now withholding for Palestine makes you the much-maligned single issue voter, as if genocide is just a tally on a fucking pro/con balance sheet. People who saw the mass movement and protests on the ground over the past nine months suddenly concern-trolling about no one ever organizing anything and just being nihilists doing nothing while they are doing, in contrast, 'the bare minimum'. Breaking out reformist thought-terminating cliches and yelling at people with families in Palestine for not immediately being invested and engaged in the campaign of the VP of the current administration that is aiding and abetting the deaths of their loved ones. Total lanyard cultural victory. Americans by and large believe in nothing and have no principles, all they want is eternal 2014.
Hindenburg vs. Hitler then, Hindenburg vs. Hitler now, Hindenburg vs. Hitler forever 
YOU HAVE TO BE A RATIONAL BENEVOLENT UTILITARIAN ABSOLUTE HARM-MINNING ACTOR AT ALL TIMES YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR 99% HITLER EVEN IF SHE PERSONALLY SENT THE DRONE THAT KILLED YOUR FAMILY EVEN IF YOU LIVE IN A HARD-LOCKED BLUE STATE YOU HAVE TO CO-SIGN IT YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TOMy friends are really vocal about how we NEED to vote for her. We live in a deep deep blue state but they get upset when I say I'm not gonna.
What do they say when you point out that all you can do in such a state is affect the popular vote?
i mean, people like that don't actually care or keep and eye on things like the popular vote and your effect on it
they've chosen to support the dems, full knowing that the litany of issues with them, and now they NEED to make sure you're willing to stoop to be in the in-group too because so long as I vote blue while you hold out, I'm going to feel like we're not both part of the correct in-group and that's scawy
Bro this happened to me a few weeks ago. My friend implied I (and my partner) am brainwashed by alt right propaganda or something because we suggested we won't vote for Joe
reformists when you aren’t engaging in realpolitik every second of your waking hours in the name of harm-minimization
reformists using the one ring every single chance it could even possibly be useful that they get because invisibility is super helpful and expedites the trip to Mordor
the "single issue voter" accusation is easy to respond to, you just list all the awful shit Harris did in California and her clownshow of a 2020 primary campaign demonstrating her absolute lack of leadership and management qualifications. No single issues here, on every issue she is an evil nightmare
her clownshow of a 2020 primary campaign
I still love how she dropped out before any voting happened, that's how bad she was polling
Lmao just like biden’s first presidential run
Then every single bourgeois news outlet in the country decided to give him a boost when he was sinking in 2020 and whaddya know!
just
"yes i'm a single issue voter, go fuck yourself and argue with moms for liberty or whatever group dems target."Single issue voting works. Its the only voter campaign strategists can really understand and fear. Next time just say "sorry sweaty but they're just unelectable".
much-maligned single issue voter
Who gives a fuck when the issue is genocide?
You're not voting for Hitler? But he's so good with the trains!
At this point I'm growing to hate liberals more than I hate conservatives. Conservatives openly embrace their evil and don't pretend to be anything else; Liberals pretend they're good people and get very upset when you point out that the things they support (cough cough, genocide) are evil, whereas conservatives say "hell yeah we love murdering {insert racial slur}" and then nobody minds when you throw rocks at them.
We've all read it but this MLK passage came to mind when I read your comment and vigorously agreed that I hate the American liberal's politics more than the American conservative's:
I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.”
Malcolm X also has a good quote about this to and relates to what you said.
The white conservatives aren't friends of the Negro either, but they at least don't try to hide it. They are like wolves; they show their teeth in a snarl that keeps the Negro always aware of where he stands with them. But the white liberals are foxes, who also show their teeth to the Negro but pretend that they are smiling. The white liberals are more dangerous than the conservatives; they lure the Negro, and as the Negro runs from the growling wolf, he flees into the open jaws of the "smiling" fox.”
God damn this is perfect and feels so relatable. It feels kind of heartbreaking that I didn't read this when I was a child, it might have helped.
I keep thinking about this quote, it's so good. I can't find it anywhere online and want to share it with people; do you have a link?
It's from Malcolm X's "God's Judgement of White America (The Chickens Come Home to Roost)" speech in 1963. It is hard to find, and like going to audio portions for it, I could only find one small audio snip it that speech. But here a few links to the transcribed speech.
http://www.malcolm-x.org/speeches/spc_120463.htm
https://www.icit-digital.org/articles/malcolm-x-on-god-s-judgement-of-white-america-december-4-1963
https://blackcommentator.com/278/278_malcolm_printer_friendly.html (This one leaves out the Nation of Islam stuff in the beginning of his speech and gets into like the general gist of the speech)
https://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/disp_textbook.cfm?smtid=3&psid=3619 (this one just cites the malcolm-x org website, and they mistakenly link to the wrong speech)
This lesser of two evils thing is starting to get philosophical isn’t it
For real. I can't even tell which side is more evil now. Maybe the nature and expression of their evil is slightly different, but it sums up to about the same magnitude of evil overall.
Yeah I'm not sure if I agree with the "liberals are deceptive but conservatives aren't" logic, they're both entirely committed to lying blatantly and gaslighting massive portions of the population
Maybe it just feels that way to me because I have been taken in by liberals' false nicety but have not been fooled by conservatives because they're so obviously evil
Yeah, I think it's just that conservatives don't appear to be hiding to us, but to your average person they're actually sometimes convincing. Terrifying
I tend to hate conservatives more than liberals, but most of the liberals I know are more the confused apolitical not fantastic politics but also not totally shitty people type. But then something like this happens and I'm exposed to the epic redditor or the back to brunch crowd and I remember just how absolutely insufferable liberals can be. Out of touch, pretentious, and so confidently wrong about everything. Can't these people get like one win without just turning into the most insufferable people on the planet?
I think what infuriates me the most is how they've just done an about face and closed ranks around her.
They were just about to feed Joe to the hyenas for being a senile monster, but I'm supposed to be cool with checks notes his vice president now? Just because she can speak intelligible english most of the time, and not look like my grandfather half a year before he completely succumbed to dementia?
We went from 98% Hitler v 99% Hitler to 95% Hitler v 99% Hitler, and they're just falling over each other to scramble back into the warm lake of urine that is the Democratic party.
Nah.
Can she? Speak intelligebl sentences most of the time? From what I remembered she was as senile as the other candidates.
Americans by and large believe in nothing and have no principles, all they want is eternal 2014.
Well put. That's why they voted for Genocide Joe in the first place, after all.
I knew it was all lost when they (allies and POC) voted for a guy that was against fucking desegregation.
Went from voting in the first black president to voting in a guy that believed black people aren't equal to whites and should be separated.
Tbf they probably only knew him as Obama’s VP and thought he was good based on that alone
Don't give them that excuse, they knew his thoughts on desegregation. They literally didn't care.
You want me to vote for genocidal dictator Joe Biden’s handpicked successor? No thank you
2020 all over again. The same people out in the streets that summer dipping their feet into actual radical politics closing ranks around Biden because mainstream media and a bunch of astroturfed tiktoks told them that he has the "most progressive platform of any US presidential candidate in history", then he'll (she'll) be elected and the liberals will all tearfully exclaim "I feel like we're finally a country again" and ignore anything that happens for the next 4 years until his (her) shittiness becomes unavoidable, then they'll just find some other ghoul from the ghoul factory to close ranks around.
"not voting blue is a vote for red!" is literally the logic of a bratty child who says you're supporting the other group's team by refusing to join the game, except america's game is sponsored by pools of human blood
"Okay I'll vote for Trump then since they're the exact same in your eyes."
Then they immediately back pedal and start hemming and hawing over definitions.
I’m so lucky I don’t live where you guys do and have to hear this shit all the time. Would make me insane.
The democrat party is doing what it's best at: luring popular movements in and killing them by smothering them in vague nebulous promises, the fulfilment of which somehow forever lies in the future, never in the present and for whom nobody bears responsibility for past betrayal.
