• FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]
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      1 year ago

      the-democrat looks at polling data "See, we told you that Joe Biden was too far left! We need to move way to the right to get back all these voters!"

      • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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        edit-2
        1 year ago

        maybe-later-kiddo: "Agreed, sorry but even if we don't like it. Those dumb rubes want fascism and if we can't afford alienating the working class! Appeal more to minorities? We already do by not being orange, sweaty. What are they going to do? Vote Republican?"

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
    hexagon
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    1 year ago

    The final paragraph

    “I think for me it’s all the broken promises from Biden that make me want to switch to Trump,” said Ms. Ramirez, who voted for Mr. Biden in 2020 and is considering voting for Mr. Trump. “In 2020, I didn’t like what Trump had to say and his womanizing wasn’t great. But Trump is also more dominating and aggressive and maybe we do need someone like that to fix our economy and our country.”

    • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      I think that's the thing I find so incredulous about it all, that there are people going back and forth rather than just looking at how fucked it all is and giving up. These people have no political sense whatsoever, but an opinion on everything, I'm sure.

      • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
        hexagon
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        1 year ago

        It's reality tv for them. Which contestant do they really want to be the last one on the island?

        an opinion on everything

        They are like American pundits. No matter how stupid their opinion is - the important thing is that they say something. I scanned David Frum's recent Atlantic article "Here’s What Biden Can Do to Change His Grim Polling". I thought it might be horrible-funny. But it was only horrible-bad. It's boilerplate GOP concern trolling. Biden should move to the right. And Frum suggests Biden should punch left. This is bizarre...

        Picking a fight with Kanye West worked for Obama. Photo ops with cute kids wearing school logos worked for Clinton. Biden needs to make triangulating opportunism work for him. Every day, the furthest fringes of American culture create even more lucrative targets for Biden to whack at.

        But it's entirely unclear what he wants Biden to whack at. This was sort of funny...

        [Look] how closely Biden’s approval numbers have tracked the numbers from former President Barack Obama’s first term. Obama’s numbers slumped in the second half of his third year, 2011. In the middle of that October, his disapproval number reached 41 percent, not very far off from Biden’s 37 percent at the same point in October 2023.

        What kind of "analysis" is that? It's a pile of nonsense. Obama had the celebrity and fan base of a rock star. People really loved him. Biden has the celebrity and fan base of a really old guy on a sitcom that people know the name of but wish he was replaced because he's too old and they don't like him. Also and of course - Obama didn't have a Gaza war happening that would most likely even ruin his reelection chances.

        • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          What kind of "analysis" is that? It's a pile of nonsense.

          Oh, comrade, are you unaware that presidencies happen in a vacuum where the only variable that affects them is time? I can see how confusing this might be for you then. data-laughing

          Obama had the celebrity and fan base of a rock star. People really loved him. Biden has the celebrity and fan base of a really old guy on a sitcom that people know the name of but wish he was replaced because he's too old and they don't like him. Also and of course - Obama didn't have a Gaza war happening that would most likely even ruin his reelection chances.

          Not disagreeing with your overall point, but don't forget that Obama had the entire Right Wing media and their astroturfed lackies as his heel. I still remember playing spot the black guy when the pictures of the anti-healthcare rally in DC came out. He was the Secret Muslim Terrorist Communist President who wanted to give everyone healthcare, supposedly. Don't get me started on the reality of it though.

    • stigsbandit34z [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Trump is also more dominating and aggressive and maybe we do need someone like that to fix our economy and our country.”

      Just replaying the hits from 2015 without a single neuron firing

    • SputnikII [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Every day, I'm just absolutely astounded by the crayon munching vibes of the entire American public. Only thing they can nationalize is brainrot.

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      why does the NYT keep using ~2010 photos of biden?

      The Times says the libs can have a little smoother Biden - as a treat. The paper doesn't want to entirely crush lib dreams. Current Biden looks like the Crypt Keeper.

  • Juiceyb [any]
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    1 year ago

    Biden is what you get when you run Bill Clinton's corpse. This shit didn't work in 00 or 16, and these people still want more. You can complete all the reactionary's demands, and it's not enough to satisfy their outrage. The only way to fight these worm-brain people is to fight against their demands, not satisfy them at every fucking corner. Americans are piss pigs and they love it when they get dominated by an old white man thicc-trump