as a black woman who grew up on the internet its very clear that whenever people say im not attracted to x race, its almost always black people, particularly black women.

as such the whole preference conversation (especially one that hinges on disingenously declaring "preference" as disliking blondes and disingeniously compares that dislike to disliking black people --without mentioning that there's a preference against black people ofc!) is a dogwhistle for me for unexamined white supremacy.

its always been very dehumanizing to experience but then i remember that im hotter than all of you

solidarity with my asian men, who are often also on the end of the "im not attracted to x race schitk".

coming from a place of constant dehumanization makes it hard for me to understand the fetishization complaint from other races / race and gender combos deemed as attractive but im still trying to learn about it, and get past my knee jerk "you are lucky to be considered as hot for being a latina even if it is dehumanizing when every single kid's adolescence in america seems to based on deeming black women as ugly ghetto monkeys" response.

any way if anyone still carries that whole "black women are ugly" nazi ass rhetoric, they definitely reveal themselves to be racist or 14 years old and racist

as always based on some of these comments, chapo.chat is able to pull obscure marxist theory out of its ass and talk about it ad nauseum but cant handle basic desirability politics

btw although im not attracted to x people almost always implicates black women, it also always implicates fat black women, and fat people in general. Attraction isnt as inate and as fixed and as apolitical as you think. One easy and proven way to decolonize your desires is to read fat liberation theory, disability justice work and pro black literature (with a specific emphasis on womanism and queer black literature)

i believe while its not everything, a huge reason why our culture went from paris hilton to meghan thee stallion as a beauty ideal is due to a constant push over the last 15 years to at least have SOME type of diverse bodies in media // our society's relationship to fatness is changing before our eyes and part of that is due to changing what we see every day (this isnt a dumb ass representation matters comment, or a comment meant to ignore the work many fat, disability, pro black etc activists have done to change this/ also this isnt to ignore the work capitalists such as the kardashians have put into to commodify their culturally appropriative bodies)

(my fave way to observe a very clear changing beauty standard is to watch buffy season 1 and then buffy season 2. literally sarah michelle geller's body changes to get even tinier in season 2, reflecting what we can assume to be alot of interpersonal pressure and/or aging, but also the fact that society was coming into the early 2000s which praised skinniness rather than the relatively curvy 90s aesthetic)

like half the hot people wouldnt even be considered hot because theyre bigger than the standard of the early 2000s. Obviously a new beauty standard isnt good, and we should be pushing for body neutrality, but fat people are being seen more at least and as a result im willing to bet everyone is a little more into fucking fat people now (not that fat people arent hot in the first place / and not that fat people being seen as attractive is the main goal for fat liberation, especially when discrimination towards fat people usually shakes out in life threatening ways such as barred access to medical care -----you know, more important things)

any way i think the clear political, racial, class, gender expression etc implications of attractiveness is why ive always been personally fascinated by incels despite them being horrible and women hating. (I guess im more interested in involuntary celibacy from the perspective of the disabled woman feminist who first coined it). its like even the crazy kids calling people slurs on chat roulette understand that diserability politics exists (even though they have no political understanding of it) so its very weird to me when self proclaimed leftists act as if beauty isnt political

Sorry this post got high in the active/all sorting, there's going to be an influx of white people going "akshually camt halp et"

FELLOW HONKIES: Sexuality is a very fluid phenomenon. You lonely, horny bastards should consciously construct a porn feed that's more diverse. Your pReFerEnCeS can dramatically change within days or weeks. It's a well-known psychological fact. Even things like severe sex or porn "addictions" are so reversible that there are psychologists who argue that "addiction" is too strong of a word to ever apply to anything sexual. I speak from experience, my PreFeReNceS changed dramatically within days of beginning a relationship with a black woman.

edit: I lucked into having a relationship, it was unexpected and organic. Never treat minorities as training wheels to be better people. Read Marijuana420's comment below vvv

The mainstream media, especially Hollywood, are the ones that molded our "preferences" since childhood. For example, the first American sex icon was a Japanese American man, and throughout the 1900s-1920s. Asiatics were seen as exotic and attractive until America started dishing out the Yellow Peril propaganda in the 30s and 40s.

During the cold war, America tried to mitigate the hate for their new Asian allies by making movies to humanize them, which worked, and positive representation for Asians in post WW2 American media reached its peak in the late 70s to early 80s with Bruce Lee. Since the late 80s, however, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Hollywood began to push for more movies to dehumanize Asians, America's new boogeyman; It's also around the same time the CIA started to stir up turmoil in Tibet and Xinjiang.

Today, the average American considers Asiatics -- along with Desis (South Asians) and non-White-passing Arabs -- as among the least attractive people in America. That goes to show how powerful the MSM is in influencing who we are today, and it's also the sole reason why Nazi-leaning Vaushie Libs are so prolific.

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Getting into art made me side eye the people who say shit like that a lot more. It made me realize humans really don't have that many eye, nose, lip, etc shapes and how much overlap there actually is between the supposedly distinct groups.

Damnt this is such an informative thread. Thanks @LibsEatPoop3 for making the post.

Never understood this personally, everyone's fucking 🥵 hot 🥵

don’t find people... who follow a specific religion attractive

In a Western Internet context, isn't this mostly a dog whistle for Islamophobia or racism against people from the MENA region?

To be fair though, someone saying they were devoutly religious in any way would most likely be a huge turn-off for me. Religion just weirds me out

You're not wrong, but imma have to whip out the old "healthcare pls" :yes-honey-left:

YOU SHOULD BE ATTRACTED TO X DEMOGRAPHIC is not only useless, it's bad vibes, and most importantly, counterproductive

Sorry, didn't realize which comm I was in.

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Good thread.

I'm definitely less attracted to people that look like me and my family. But shit, I've still had white partners.

Sorry, just sometimes liberals get on my fucking nerves.

I've thought this a million times about this issue. Thank you for saying it.