this dork is itching to sign-up for indentured servitude on Mars
Trek's got an episode where a Wall Street guy wakes up from cryosleep and is shocked and horrified to learn that humanity has evolved past all that stuff. Yeah the writing can be a bit lib at times but it's clear that the Federation isn't running on capitalism any more, even if other cultures like the Ferengi are.
You mean this episode "We have eliminated hunger, want, the need for possessions". You have to be really infantile to deny this is literally communism.
Even if you wanted to argue Trek socialism and the UFP, and this is a long discussion simply because TV writers are very inconsistent and there is not much coherence in this topic, you have to be a complete moron to name yourself a "Capitalist", unironically, when DS9 exists and :quark: is the literally the joke character of the series.
Calling yourself a Capitalist in Trek prime canon is as taboo and cringe as naming yourself "TreKKKie" in 2020.
The funny thing is that they set DS9 outside the Federation deliberately so that they could get around the whole post-scarcity socialist society thing. The canon was explicit enough that they said "Fuck it, we're just going to set it in some backwater part of the universe so that we don't have to deal with all the commie mumbo jumbo." I wish Gene Roddenberry were around today, I bet he'd be excited about the small but very real resurgence of actual left wing politics, and new Star Trek would reflect that more than the current stuff does.
I wish all right wing trekkies
a very pleasant
why the fuck do you exist
capitalism never artificially causes scarcity haha that'd be silly, of course capitalism can exist without scarcity, that's why there are homeless people and people without healthcare or jobs or food or water
Yes, I believe in supply-demand pricing. Yes, I believe in post-scarcity. We exist.
You publish one interview with "The Star Trek Communist" and the conservative trek fans freak out like it's a warp core breach.
glad someone posted this, i came in at the tail end of that drama but it was pretty fucking funny to see reactionary nerds melting down and making an idiot of themselves. for whatever weird reason i've been seeing some extremely weird anti-communist / pro capitalism star trek discourse for the last few weeks, haven't been following trek news, not sure if there is osmething else going on but lol
'star trek capitalist' is just the nu-trek universe.
you could do a whole master's thesis on how star trek 2009 subverts the concept of cooperation and solidarity in favour of great man Kirk and his individual indispensabilityagreed, the new films are quite weak
maybe the whole Kelvin timeline ends up being retconned as the catalyst that creates the mirror universe
really enjoyed the 'eat shit capitalist' episode of Disco though
Wasn't there a post here a while back that claimed Lenin and his work is crucial to the Star Trek timeline?
Also, love that I can't think of a single corporation in the Star Trek universe. Everything seems to be based on country or planet at the smallest level. I could be wrong of course.
Excuse me, "claimed?" It is fairly explicit: https://hexbear.net/post/101164
Lol, my bad, I didn't mean to be so cranky: I think my blood sugar was pretty low when I wrote that.
There seem to be some sole traders here and there, but nothing bigger than a private heavy freighter captain.
We've got a star trek Trot (that will guy), star trek capitalist, where is the star trek tankie and star trek anarchist?
Star Trek anarchism is basically The Culture series.
In fact I'd dare say it's a vastly superior depiction of a communist techno utopia than Star Trek.
i agree. and it's probably more actual, full blown stateless moneyless classless communism then anarchism but i believe the Culture itself arrived to it through a sort of AI facilitated anarchist development (loose society of starfaring ships and stations that slowly becomes the Culture itself). i have fantasies about the Culture absorbing Earth without violence in the way they do. plus it goes places Star Trek never does, what with the transhumanism and people being able to change sex to match their gender with ease or as a self exploration, control over internal body processes, and the whole zero exploitation of any sentient life being their only real rule. sorry for fangirling
Nah I completely agree. I read like half the series and don't want to finish it because it's kinda depressing to read about The Culture knowing I won't ever live in such a society. I can watch Star Trek because the Federation most of the time feels like modern day US but in space while The Culture feels way more real because it's so fundamentally different from our society and the author pays attention to the details.
same reason why i've been very, very slowly reading the series. kind of savoring it. and you are right about the details. The Federation is absolutely post-scarcity hyper social democracy U.S. in space sometimes. i wish it was more based.
another day being a capitalism lover, going to end it watching my favorite capitalist tv show, the one where in the second series of it they established that they don't use money and in the third series of it a plot point is a character organizing a union
yeah the guys who install community theaters on their military warships are definitely not socialists. They care so much about human development (species development?) that serving in the federation navy is like going on a cruise, besides the occasional temporal anomaly that time zaps you back to the stone age.
