• Soleimani [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Electoralism leads to Unionism. Unionism leads to Class Consciousness. There's room for growth here.

    • Gkalaitza [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Looks the last 70 years of socdem/demsoc electoralism, (much more successfull and lasting than everything the US is even a decade from hoping to do) ,unions and searches for any increase or spread of class conciousness anywhere

      uhhh lets not be so sure about these correlations even if they make sense theoreticaly

      • Soleimani [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        French unions have been pretty aggressive. British unions were big supporters of Corbyn's democratic socialist project. It's hard to find a social democracy that doesn't have a larger leftist movement than America.

        • Gkalaitza [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          aggressive at keeping their social democracy, nothing about advancing class conciousness and socialism. Also europeans countries having a larger leftist movement is explained historicaly by many other reasons other than social democracy ,under which socialist movements almost never grew in Europe, only stagnated

    • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      And when there is electoral failure, when it is principled and points the right fingers, it will also build class consciousness.