• Mike_Penis [any]
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    3 years ago

    also heavily increased risks of blood clots including heart attacks and strokes. also other types of cancer not just lung cancer. and like tripling your chance of dying from covid. smoking is cool

    • RedDawn [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I read some studies where smokers were way less likely to be hospitalized with COVID than non smokers.

      • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        My bullshit pseudoscience for it is that the coating of tar in my lungs makes it a hostile environment for the virus.

        • RedDawn [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah this was quite some time ago so idk if they ever figured it out but the numbers from China and then France showed smokers coming into hospitals at way lower rates. The numbers were so strong that France ended up running a study where they had people use nicotine patches because they were speculating that it could have been nicotine having some effect on the ACE 2 receptor or something. But I never followed it closely so idk what happened with that.

          • Mike_Penis [any]
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            3 years ago

            I'm pretty certain that smokers were among the first people eligible for the vaccine so i figured it would make it more likely for you to die from covid

      • Floridamanpill [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I wonder if that’s just because I’m used to my chest feeling like shit anyway

      • headr00m [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        My understanding about the smoking-rona link was that smokers still had worse outcomes than non-smokers, but that the difference was much smaller than expected which led to the speculation about a protective effect.

        • RedDawn [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I don't think it was peer reviewed, and I'm not sure if we'll ever have a peer reviewed study on this, but every time I've seen any data on what percentage of people hospitalized with COVID are smokers, it's always way lower than the percentage of smokers in the general population in whatever country. It could be just shitty data collection, I'd be interested in seeing more detailed studies.

  • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]M
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    3 years ago

    Vaping good. Still an exploitative industry but vapor is 99% less shitty on your body than smoke.

    • Shitbird [any]
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      3 years ago

      vaping is fucking dope. I get to suck off a robot and it cums thick clouds bruh

    • DickFuckarelli [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Early vape adopter here. I vaped for about 10 years. I quit vaping 3 months ago. I feel physically no different which to me at least shows that vaping is leaps and bounds less dangerous than smoking. My body didn't have to "heal." There was no clearing of the sinuses or learning to smell and taste again.

      I'm not saying vaping is healthy but it certainly isn't the slow early death cigarettes are.

    • cosecantphi [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Whenever I see a TV anti-vaping PSA I get so mad. These commercials are literally funded by cigarette companies! They're out there making it sound like vaping once will give you irreversible radioactive cobalt poisoning or some shit

    • Phish [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      Vaping helped me quit smoking, too. My lungs were so much better vaping than smoking. Of course better with neither but nicotine is a bitch man.

  • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Very offensive, you just assume I DON'T want to shave the last 20 years off of my life expectancy?!?

    Enjoy your adult diapers proto-boomers

  • theother2020 [comrade/them, she/her]
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    3 years ago

    I’ve been thinking, what if the only legal vices were ones you had grow yourself or were limited to very small businesses.

    https://www.lovethegarden.com/uk-en/article/how-grow-your-own-tobacco

    • cosecantphi [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I feel like inevitably a black market would form, just maybe not to the same extent of our actual real life drug black markets.

      But I gotta admit, that'd be sick if I could plant an acre of poppies or some shit without getting put in prison for thirty years

  • mazdak
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    10 months ago

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