Now here is what YOU need to do:
Go through the link list.
Debunk all the evidence there (no cherry picking please).
Trace every and all claims back to CIA, US government or whoever else you wanna blame. This includes foreign journalists reports from Xinjiang itself. Remember - you need to do all of them.
Debunk the leaks from the Chinese government itself. This includes the non-leaked publiclly available information like job listings for camp guards, security cameras that specifically recognize Uighurs etc.
Debunk the 14,000+ victims testimonies in the database links.
Debunk the Chinese sources themselves.
Debunk all the satellite imagery.
Do all of this one by one.
Remember - each and every claim, every data point, every image, every document and every testimony.
"Sir! You will debate me in the marketplace of ideas! You will go through everything one-by-one, or you lose. I will apply no scrutiny to the sources myself. That's your job."
They do this every time. I remember some dumbass lib stumbled into r/Chapo and did this where they linked 5 article they obviously didn't read, they just immediately Googled the topic to show how every liberal news outlet agrees with the headlines they've read (and only the headlines).
The first one was literally Adrian Zenz's article in Foreign Policy and if you just clicked on his name it stated he was part of the Victims Of Communism Foundation, etc. I mentioned it was obvious propaganda and they went something like "that's 1 down four to go" in the smuggest way possible. And it turns out the other articles (Vox, The Independent, and I can't remember the other two probably The Guardian and like NYT or something) all cited the China Cables which Zenz is one of the two main people who translated and I believe had sole control of said documents at the time. The articles didn't actually mention Zenz, or anyone else, involved with the China Cables usually -- I think one of them did. But it wasn't hard to find out and the complete lack of sources for anything should have been questionable at least.
But no, these fucking morons never do the reading and cover for it by becoming increasingly smug and lazy. And don't seem to mind mixing in obvious propaganda into their bullshit for some reason. They just don't care.
"Sort through my shit articles I haven't read. I have the liberal journalist-approved opinion. If there's propaganda in there and you point it out, that's cherry-picking. It has no bearing on my ability to understand the world or journalism. It's never my fault if I fall for propaganda."
Have definitely come across it a number of times. The first time I thought that they were really going in and citing legitimate sources to challenge me with. What I found instead were articles with headlines that said what they wanted to, and had very dubious sources and claims.
My god the one who put up links...
"Sir! You will debate me in the marketplace of ideas! You will go through everything one-by-one, or you lose. I will apply no scrutiny to the sources myself. That's your job."
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Do my homework for me or you have lost!
Remember, the burden of proof is on you to debunk claims, that’s how logic works!
They do this every time. I remember some dumbass lib stumbled into r/Chapo and did this where they linked 5 article they obviously didn't read, they just immediately Googled the topic to show how every liberal news outlet agrees with the headlines they've read (and only the headlines).
The first one was literally Adrian Zenz's article in Foreign Policy and if you just clicked on his name it stated he was part of the Victims Of Communism Foundation, etc. I mentioned it was obvious propaganda and they went something like "that's 1 down four to go" in the smuggest way possible. And it turns out the other articles (Vox, The Independent, and I can't remember the other two probably The Guardian and like NYT or something) all cited the China Cables which Zenz is one of the two main people who translated and I believe had sole control of said documents at the time. The articles didn't actually mention Zenz, or anyone else, involved with the China Cables usually -- I think one of them did. But it wasn't hard to find out and the complete lack of sources for anything should have been questionable at least.
But no, these fucking morons never do the reading and cover for it by becoming increasingly smug and lazy. And don't seem to mind mixing in obvious propaganda into their bullshit for some reason. They just don't care.
"Sort through my shit articles I haven't read. I have the liberal journalist-approved opinion. If there's propaganda in there and you point it out, that's cherry-picking. It has no bearing on my ability to understand the world or journalism. It's never my fault if I fall for propaganda."
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Have definitely come across it a number of times. The first time I thought that they were really going in and citing legitimate sources to challenge me with. What I found instead were articles with headlines that said what they wanted to, and had very dubious sources and claims.
the best part is state department lawyers did exactly that and "couldn't find enough evidence"
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/02/19/china-uighurs-genocide-us-pompeo-blinken/
That's still a poisoned article and we know what these people like doing on a football pitch.
The slave market of ideas.