The Pentagon has recently been releasing videos of UFOs and claiming that they are genuinely unexplained, and the mainstream media has become more open to talking about them. What do you think is going on? As far as I can figure, there are four possible explanations:

  • UFOs have always been fake and the government is just now getting in on faking these videos, perhaps to justify more military spending.
  • UFOs are some type of as-of-yet unexplained atmospheric phenomenon, like ball lightning.
  • Some military or company has developed new scientific theories and technology, in complete secrecy, capable of the kind of behavior seen in the videos.
  • Aliens are involved in some way.
  • Chomsky [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Pretty sure it's an OP. Gives the government an air of transparency, its a distraction, justifies space force.

    Frankly, I think they have been building this up for a long time for a point when their credibility was low and they figured they really needed a distraction and probably underestimated the level of distrust people have and thought there would be a bigger response.

    • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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      3 years ago

      yeah some deputy was like "this will absolutely distract everyone from the [insert symptom of societal collapse]!" and then no one cared lol

    • Fartbutt420 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Timely find, looking forward to being increasingly nervous this July

    • duderium [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I just read this for the first time thanks to you. What creeped me out the most was the poster’s comment about how Neanderthals were black. I feel like that’s not something the average person knows. And the poster does seem to be pretty average. They said they hadn’t finished college and made all kinds of spelling mistakes.

      I don’t know. Could be nonsense. Might not be. One has to wonder how the aliens found out about his reddit post. Because if the aliens are redditors, that’s it, Julian. We’re faaahcked.

      • Fakename_Bill [he/him]
        hexagon
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        3 years ago

        The Neanderthals lived primarily in Europe. Is there direct evidence they were black?

        • duderium [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          This article concludes that their skin color was variable, so I was actually mistaken. Some had light skin, others had dark skin. I may have been mixing Neanderthals up with Homo sapiens, who only evolved lighter skin colors about eight thousand years ago, long after Neanderthals died out.

          Still, I believe the average Western normie would assume that Neanderthals living in Europe would have white skin, and then be surprised to find that they sometimes didn't have white skin.

          I did about five minutes of research regarding the redditor's kind of strange claim that the Egyptians somehow built the pyramids from the inside-out. That seems kind of unlikely. The most plausible explanation seems to be that they built a ramp around pyramids that were under construction in order to get all that stone up there.

          We'll find out if this person was a kook (or if the aliens changed their plans) in about six weeks regardless.

        • duderium [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Thanks for sending me that. I just read through all of it as well as a bunch of the comments. I don't really have much to add. It honestly seems like the person is crazy (sorry for the insensitive term there), but then again, being abducted by the Friends of Friends for your entire life would probably make anyone crazy. We just have to wait until 7/18 I guess. I'm also not an expert but I'm looking through the symptoms of schizophrenia on google and they seem to kind of match.

          Also, if this were actually happening, I feel like Trump would probably know about it and that he would tell us all immediately. "When they send the Friends of Friends from Zeta Reticuli, folks, let me tell you, they aren't sending their best."

          Can you also imagine if this is real and we have to refer to the aliens as Friends of Friends?

  • HarryLime [any]
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    3 years ago

    I think it's weird and suspicious that only the US is talking about this, and that the phenomenon seems to be clustered around American military bases. Unless China and Russia and Britain and everyone else are still hiding their UFO stuff.

      • rubpoll [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Hell, seeing a UFO is a practically a Chilean pastime.

          • Pezevenk [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            It is very much a largely US based phenomenon. It's not just this one source. Every source shows more or less the same thing. People in other places don't care about UFOs nearly as much. It's a phenomenon mostly created by British and American media, and while it bled out elsewhere too, that's the main source. It might be commonplace in some other countries too every now and then, sure, but that's where it started and that is where it became a big cultural phenomenon over years and years.

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Bullshit to distract, maybe they hope a new wave of hippies siphoning young people's energy from politics to New Age bullshit all over again

  • TheModerateTankie [any]
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    3 years ago

    :posadas: press the space communism button already. fuck the prime directive.

  • Shitbird [any]
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    3 years ago

    pretty cool hope its real

    :posad:

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Just make sure they're not the evil lizard aliens that the royal family are supposed to be. That's why I check out the skull shape of aliens I encounter with my handy pocket calipers.

      • kissinger
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        1 year ago

        deleted by creator

        • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Easy, the g̶̢̡̙͚̣͔̬̮̤̞͓̥̱̮̲̳̜̓̀̇̄̾́͊̈͜ǫ̴͕͓͎͇̼̭̜̫͚͓̙̯̠͇͎̮̞̘͕̐̾́̔̉̽͒͗̃̅̓̈́́̀̈́̚͝ͅơ̴͚̥̱̗̲̗͔̋͊̆̆̏̑͌̀̍̈̈́̿̎̉̚̚̚͝p̵̡̨͎̯͔̣̞̣̭͇͈̹͕͔̥͎̟̂͆̅͗͊̇͆̾̍̂̇̊̈̌ͅ ̸̗̈́̐̇̌̏͒̓̎͂̎b̴̡̧̡̠̖̖̠͎̘̜̣̪̹̻̫͈͈̯̯͎̞͙̄̇̋̔̔̽̽̂̾̔͑̄̓͘̚͝ͅơ̶̧̢̤̼͇̪͉̝̪̼͙͖͕̯̪̹̲̠͉̟͎̞̦̘̐̃̄͊̌̓̇̎̆͛̀̚̕ͅn̴͓̥͉̤͚̮͉̼̞͖̏̂͗̄̏͐̓́̅͒͐́̐̆̉̇̄̒̑̇̐̈̃̆̊̈͌͛͂̕͜e̸̦̭͈̭͊͂̄̊́̇̈́̿̀̈̉̍̈́̈̃̄̑̐͂͋͊́́̂̚̚͘͝͝ near the s̶̡̨̢̢̻̳̞̣̲̠̳̣̫̳̭̭͎̜̘̱̦̆͒͆̀͊̓͐͛̒̆̾̔͊̊̓̅͝͝l̵̢̧̨̡͚͕̱̟̟͇̥̭̘̫̹̮̫̒̍̀̽̈́̒́͑́̽͘̕a̵̢̦̳̫͊͂̈̄̓̅̂̉͒͂̈́̚͝ḅ̷̛̛̘̤͎̻̏͊̉̏̆̋̔͋̀̏̀̽͗̀́̓̑̃̏̎̐̾͘͝͠͝͝ ̴̢̡͎̹̰̺̞͖̣̭̼̤̙̝̋͆̏́̒͒͒́̽͜͝p̸̩͍̹̄͂̈͊̉͑͘ö̶̢̡̢̡̩̺̘̱͓̺͍̦͈̗̖͍̪̹̍̈́̄̽̑͛̅̌̀̿͗́̈̀̓̍̋̊̓͌͜͝ͅc̶̨̛̼̘̠͖̞̖̬͈̻̗̜̖͉͍̪̣͎̤̭̣̈́̈́̀̈͊̾̈́̍̈́̐̎́̉̃̄̌̋̑̇̍̆̄͑̈͘̚̚͠ḱ̵̨̧̢̛̙̰̖͇̘͇̱̪̼̣͚̖̯̯̩͕͔͖̠̞̭̩̄̄͑̎̏̀̽̑͌͊̚͝ͅḙ̵̢̨̡͇͙̠͔̘̳͚̫͖̠͔͇̯̻̞̲̓̿͌̎̐͌̃̑̃͐͑͝t̸̢̡̡̢̛̮͚̤͙͓̫̰͎̗̤͈̣̩̟̹̱̰̼̞̬͎͗̇̇͋͆̿̃́̔̐͋̍̚͝ needs to be concave at a 40 degree angle.

                      • skeletorsass [she/her]
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                        3 years ago

                        I am not sure how this evidence or suggest that, and the project did not produce useful result.

                        It is interesting to me that the CIA do not seem to know how to conduct a study either. They have the resources, so it should not be so hard.

                          • skeletorsass [she/her]
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                            3 years ago

                            I can only really find paper which criticize the methods and complete lack of transparency and there seem to be a belief among academics and CIA official that these document have been altered after the study to create false positive result. No reproduction of this has been made either.

                            They also thought that the well known fraud Uri Geller was true which would suggest alteration.

                            More, I do not see how this would suggest an astral plane. This connection require an unreasonable leap to religion.

                            I am absolutely interested in reading these however, even though I must be skeptical about them.

  • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Ironically enough, it's very likely #3. See https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40054/adversary-drones-are-spying-on-the-u-s-and-the-pentagon-acts-like-theyre-ufos

  • Bluegrass_Buddhist [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    If they are actual spacecraft and they are actually piloted by aliens, there's not a chance in hell anyone in power would ever willingly declassify information about them.

    This is 100% weird but totally mundane phenomena getting played up to legitimize yet more expansion of the military, this time to make like orbital nuke platforms or some shit.

  • LoremIpsum [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Another explanation, the videos aren't fake; they're lens flare, a bird, a satellite or whatever like every UFO video. The pentagon is full of dinguses who are susceptible to confirmation bias like everyone else and think they are real. Some people want to believe it and make it their pet project, they're in the military, they can be the ones to finally crack the case. See also Havana syndrome.

  • crime [she/her, any]
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    3 years ago

    if there were real extraterrestrials behind the UFOs the pentagon wouldn't reveal them because they're definitely communist :posadist-nuke:

  • Darthsenio_Mall [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Most of the shits are aerial probes from other governments testing the sensitivity of US instruments because the US military has ignored the risk of "low tech" spy technology for decades, they're now catching on and much of the "soft disclosure" is an attempt to dissolve the stigma tied to seeing something bizzare so pilots will be more willling to report things and the government can better understand how fucked it is.

    Inconveniently not everything makes sense in this context, for example the tic tac is clearly not a drone or balloon, there's a lot of data on it as well as witnesses, which leaves it up to either a crazy natural phenomenon or some extremely advanced tech that is very far beyond anything the public has seen.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      You say it is clearly not a drone or a balloon but it's not so clear to me. It assumes that what you are seeing is the actual shape of the craft and not some kind of clever cloaking/reflector technology.

      • Darthsenio_Mall [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        More than the actual video of it, I'm referring to the data about the object dropping 60k ft in a few seconds, moving from hovering to supersonic speeds without any visible exhaust, actively evading a pilot who had attempted to intercept it, all of which was recorded by various sensors of the Nimitz over the course of a week. And of course the many firsthand accounts by the pilots and crewmembers involved.

        What most don't realize is that the Nimitz Carrier Strike Group wasn't just equipped with some of the most advanced sensors the world had to offer, but that it also had hands-down the most advanced networking and computer processing capability of any such system. link

        To me it seems like either this very weird thing happened and was observed, or their fancy computer system was somehow on the fritz big time, despite all appearances to the contrary, and/or the people involved are all lying or equally and similarly mistaken about what they saw.

        • Pezevenk [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I don't think it was a mistake exactly. But it looks like either they got owned and are trying to save face by saying stuff like that, or their sensors got completely tricked. Alternatively, they're intentionally lying to obscure a program which the US military is testing.

          The person who wrote the article you cited also wrote this later on: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40054/adversary-drones-are-spying-on-the-u-s-and-the-pentagon-acts-like-theyre-ufos

          And something like this doesn't seem like a bad candidate for what it might be in the case they are lying to obscure something they are actually doing: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37868/the-army-wants-to-launch-drone-swarms-behind-enemy-lines-from-high-altitude-balloons

          • Darthsenio_Mall [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Yeah could be definitely, I'm not saying I'm not open to that. The first article you linked is actually what I was very loosely paraphrasing in my original post, I couldn't find it again straight from google though. Even in this article he begrudgingly reserves a space for the tic tac: "Beyond the so-called 'Tic-Tac' video that just looked like a blurry little Tic Tac, I have seen nothing in any government 'UAP' videos that supposedly show unexplainable capabilities or craft that actually portray that. "

            That second article, that shit is pretty crazy, I haven't seen that. I can at least imagine how reflectors from multiple balloons tripping out their sensors could lead them to think it was one thing moving very fast, and maybe the couple pilots that saw it moving were just sensationalizing their accounts for fun or were instructed to lie. I am a humble layperson and not really into nat sec stuff, but I would think that sort of tech would fall under "advanced tech far beyond what the public has seen", if not now then definitely in 2004.

            • Pezevenk [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              There's some people who have made videos crunching the numbers and they say they're not moving particularly fast. Check these out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLyEO0jNt6M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAfiJqUHDg0

              At this point, it may be that the military knows what's up, and is just acting like they don't to save face. But idk, who knows.