What is it about getting older that causes people to start loving genocide
I'd honestly say this is a huge part of it. You can still be a reactionary or shithead on the internet, but if you're used to getting your news on TV you're practically a lost cause. Or at least that's how I feel on some of my family.
It's not entirely an age thing. Yes to an extent neuroplasticity decreases, attitudes become ossified, struggle of youth becomes forgotten, the material comforts of "getting yours" etc.
But I think most of it is indoctrination. If it were simply age then that would mean most people on here are going to become conservatives in old age and I just don't see that happening. I'm over 30 and I keep moving left. I was much more reactionary at 15 than I am now. I think we have access to information previous generations did not, however we also go out of our way to vet sources, etc. There are lots of young people who get caught in a reactionary echo chamber. In particular people over 40 have been taught that Israel is the "only democracy in the middle east" etc.
Mark Ames of Radio War Nerd, a Gen X guy, went on Chapo, and talked about how he was a Republican Zionist in the 1980s and one of the things that got him to open his eyes was going to Israel and seeing how much it didn't live up to what he was told about it. The 2nd thing was getting spied on by the ADL for being an anti-apartheid activist. Even though he was a Republican Zionist and Jewish, the fucking ADL was spying on him, for being left wing on an issue totally unrelated to Israel. That made him move left. So it's not just age, it's escaping your reactionary echo chamber.
for anyone who doesn't know, ADL stands for Apartheid Defense League
I worked with (and continue to work with part-time) leaded fuel for decades. I think they’re just fascist
Lead-Crime Hypothesis, Baby! Anyone who lived through the 70s is only marginally better off than the folks who had 30 IQ points blasted out of their skulls by car emissions.
Materialism. Lotta people in that bracket got theirs and stopped caring about anyone else forever ago
The other half of that equation is that the people who didn't "get theirs" and who belong to disproportionately impoverished demographics also don't tend to live into old age as frequently as people who have more privilege and who can afford the medical care that is associated with aging.
So at least some portion of this trend is due to survivorship bias.
I think there's a dating component to it. The vast majority of young people are required to have a more collective attitude to social norms in their peer groups as a necessity to being a dateable human being. Deviating too far into contrarianism (relative to the rest of the age group) results in becoming an undateable incel.
A lot of older people give up on dating, and the social pressures that go along with it disappear with it. Same goes for those who have already paired off, had kids and created families where they've now also disconnected from most former friends because the family unit becomes 97% of their life. Staying together for the kids creates its own entirely different social pressure as well and I'm sure there's some pretty negative influences that it causes.
Brain calcifies and empathy is lost. Idk if this is true but it feels true
Also, over the years, supporting Israel forces moral compromises that add up to excusing proven genocide.
It really dooby that way, I've said many times that Milennials seem like the sanest generation in the west (and I don't think this is due to age, if I compare today's 20 year olds to the 20 year olds of 10 years ago, there's still a huge difference) I think we really were the peak, and I'm not saying this out of hubris (it was entirely out of our control).
basically we were young enough to
- grow up with some semblance of diversity
- information technology
- and not inhale vaporized lead gasoline
but still old enough to
- not play candy crush in the crib
- eat a diet of only 1% plastic instead of 10% plastic
- experience an atmosphere that wasn't majority CO2
- read a book
despite this even the majority of millennials are garbage so yea. age doesn't mean much
I was confused seeing that group on top tbh, but looking at the other questions it looks like it was just easier to trick the young people with leading, and/or zoomers who support a ceasefire are more passionately anti-Zionist while it seems like a lot of millennials might both support a ceasefire and support Israel?
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You should see the previous questions
Do you think Hamas allows gay people to live together openly or punishes them?
Do you think Israel allows gay people to live together openly or punishes them?
Do you think Hamas uses civilians in Gaza as human shields to hide from justice or is not doing that?
Do you think Hamas is supported by the majority of Palestinians in Gaza or is Hamas a terror group that rules the people of Gaza with force and fear and is not supported by them?
Do you think that the long-term answer to the Israel-Palestinian dispute is for Arab states to absorb the Palestinians, for there to be two states, or for Israel to be ended and given to Hamas?
Some people say Hamas and Israel both have fairly equal just causes. Others says that there is no moral equivalency between the terrorist murders of Hamas and the actions of Israel. Which is closer to your view?
For the second to last I'd frame it like
Do you think that the long-term answer to Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine is the genocide and violent displacement of Palestinians, for Palestinians to be given a microstate of infertile land after being violently displaced from their native land, or for the dissolution of the far-right government of Israel in favor of a single, democratic secular state?
Seriously what poll is this? The 1200 civilians dead is just false.
Even my good liberal Biden-voting Boomer parents are appalled with Israel.
My dad thinks all Muslims look like one of those post-9/11 caricatures from the Bush-era newspapers and even he is like "yeah that's fucked."
My dad used to be a complete chud but one of his coworkers managed to obama pill him.
Honey, what do you want for dinner tonight? Pizza or burgers, even if burgers gives victory to Hamas?
Unfortunately, this is as good as it gets from the polling suite.
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you have to get into literal boomers before people side with you god damn
Everyone over 65 got a handjob/fingered while watching “Exodus” in the theater and it shows.
That's because every single one of us remembers not understanding how the fuck invading Iraq or Afghanistan had jack shit to do with 9/11 and arguing with our parents about it, only for them to all later pretend they were never for the GWOT
https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/HHP_Nov23_KeyResults.pdf
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this isn't context - it's the text itself
never have i felt so betrayed by a username
not so, i merely posted a link to the text, a signifier that will be useless many years from now when harvardharrispoll.com no longer exists
This site isn't exactly old yet, but it has outlived many.
i'm glad you caught the subtext that hexbear.net will continue to exist and have a userbase trying to fact check this post
Ya know people keep telling me it's wrong to say the boomer generation is shit and then somebody asks them their opinion on something.
Thanks for backing me up with nearly 100% consistency, you rotten old fucks.
Only group at least not 50/50 and nearly 30 points worse than my age group is consistently shitty enough for me
Ironic that the children understand the world better than the adults who have a literal child's understanding of the world.
