• sovietknuckles [they/them]
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    7 months ago

    She joined the crowd in chanting “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” – which is largely regarded as an antisemitic slogan that implies the decimation of Israel – before addressing the group herself.

    Interpreting "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" as implying the decimation of Israel is a self-report because it means they would rather see Israel decimated than try a 1-state solution between Israelis and Palestinians

    • VILenin [he/him]M
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      7 months ago

      The words “largely regarded” needed back surgery as a result of all the heavy lifting they did

    • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      it's also not anti-semitic to want to see Israel decimated. Israel should be decimated. It should cease to exist. That's not anti-semitic. You can't be anti-semitic against a state.

      • Venus [she/her]
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        7 months ago

        I don't want Israel to be decimated, I don't want 9/10ths of it to remain. I want it annihilated. meow-shining

    • Dessa [she/her]
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      7 months ago

      And you know that actual fascists and Nazis are gonna start saying this specifically as a way to express antisemitism with plausible deniability, assuming they haven't already

    • niph [she/her]
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      7 months ago

      The wheels of the consensus manufacturing machine keep turning

    • plinky [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Look adl agrees with us, whatcha mean. Citations can be made up by thinktankies as needed for whatever purpose

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    7 months ago

    Zionists: doing literal genocide

    Also Zionists: WAHHH people are saying I shouldn't do a genocide that makes me feel exactly like the people I'm genociding!

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    7 months ago

    I love how "From the river to the sea" is just carte blanch branded as Anti-semitism now. I wonder if we'll see some pro athlete or pop star kick off a media firestorm for saying this at a championship game or an awards show.

    • VILenin [he/him]M
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      7 months ago

      Don’t let Zionists force the narrative. Give them an inch and they will take a mile and all that

  • WhyEssEff [she/her]
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    7 months ago

    aspire to have the same level of unabashed passion about something materially meaningless as liberals have for susan sarandon

  • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    Absolutely hate the discourse that her second quote there generated. Could she have phrased it a little more carefully as to not imply antisemitism was justified in any way? Yeah, maybe. Is she 100%, unquestionably correct, just absolutely on the money, to call out that any public sentiment of antisemitism in the US is close to nothing next to the completely deranged and well funded phenomenon that is Islamophobia? Yes!

    If antisemitism and Islamophobia were anywhere close to equal in the US, George Bush would've been Nuremberg'd for starting a war that killed a million Iraqis. Instead, he's celebrated as a reasonable, pragmatic (if a little dumb) public servant. If they were even close to comparable, the media would have celebrated the Charlottesville Nazi rally the same way they celebrate the current Zionist rallies calling for the deaths of more Palestinians. If they were even close to comparable, we'd bother to teach children about the Nakba, and about the war on terror which killed around 4.5 million people, the vast majority Muslim. Instead, we teach them racism was solved in the 60s and we had a Black president so it's all good now.

    Not trying to play oppression Olympics btw, both social forces are very reactionary and need to be opposed with equal levels of barbara-pit. But to claim that antisemitism is this strong, culturally embedded problem in the US so bad that another Holocaust could happen at any moment, all while the US kills Muslims in the Middle East by the thousands yearly, is clearly detached from reality.

  • sexywheat [none/use name]
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    7 months ago

    Hassan made a really good point about "from the river to the sea" on his show the other day when he was talking to that chud that wouldn't shut the fuck up about Hamas. On the topic of that phrase, he said "What about the phrase black lives matter? Would you ask a white person or a black person if you wanted to know what is meant when they say that? Obviously a black person. Apply that same logic to this" or something to that tune.

  • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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    7 months ago

    Stop killing everyone and give Palestinians their rights and land back.

    frothingfash That's anti-semetic!

    maybe-later-kiddo Yeah what the frothing fascist said!

  • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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    7 months ago

    I know I should never put celebrities on a pedestal, but I used to only like Susan Sarandon. Since 2015 my feelings for her have grown to pure love. I absolutely adore her