East Prussians were expulsed because their country had just started WW2, committed the literal Holocaust and then rightfully got its shit kicked in. And this isn't event the first time i see an Atlantic council ghoul compare the displacement of Palestinians to that of people from the former easternmost parts of Germany (parts which were, btw, stolen from Polish and Baltic people in a settler colonialist expansion move to begin with). This is just another round of comparing Palestinians and the literal OG nazis, and once more it boils down to "well the literal fucking NSDAP was not as bad as these people whose hospitals have just been bombed to shit".
I actually don't know the history in detail, were the Germans in east Prussia actually removed or did they mostly just flee west to escape the soviets?
If you're talking about beneś, he proposed the expulsion after the Munich agreement but was unable to follow through on it (being a government in exile and all)
I was specifically talking about the Sudentenland weirdo, which wikipedia tells me was named Konrad Henlein. A german nationalist who didn't live in germany and wanted his part of Czechia to be annexed even before Austria had been Anschluss.
From 1954 to 1961 the Schieder commission issued five reports on the flight and expulsions. The head of the commission Theodor Schieder was a rehabilitated former Nazi party member who was involved in the preparation of the Nazi Generalplan Ost to colonize eastern Europe. The commission estimated a total death toll of about 2.3 million civilians including 2 million east of the Oder Neisse line.
Hmm, maybe some bias in those numbers.
It also seems that the agreed upon number more is 500,000-600,000 according to historians. The inflated numbers are basically black book style. Possibly rolling military deaths into civilian deaths and counting any German people who stayed as deaths when they really just stayed.
There was also the issue that the Nazi party had wide support in the eastern territories and keeping them there would have essentially given the west a 5 million strong nazi stay behind army (of which a good amount were families of soldiers fighting there or just straight up colonizers who moved there for libenstraum reasons)
Oof gotta say the population displacements the ussr performed are one of the few things I find no excuse for. Like line up all the nazis and shoot them, but displacing ethic groups is immoral no matter how you slice it.
East Prussians were expulsed because their country had just started WW2, committed the literal Holocaust and then rightfully got its shit kicked in. And this isn't event the first time i see an Atlantic council ghoul compare the displacement of Palestinians to that of people from the former easternmost parts of Germany (parts which were, btw, stolen from Polish and Baltic people in a settler colonialist expansion move to begin with). This is just another round of comparing Palestinians and the literal OG nazis, and once more it boils down to "well the literal fucking NSDAP was not as bad as these people whose hospitals have just been bombed to shit".
also they would go through and find records of voting for the NSDAP, if you abstained and did not settle or support the holocaust, you got to stay
turns out a lot of people supported the nazis
I actually don't know the history in detail, were the Germans in east Prussia actually removed or did they mostly just flee west to escape the soviets?
They were actually and forcibly removed, many of the postwar states expelled their German minorities
Here's a couple of wiki links cause im lazy
czechloslovakia
Poland
general
Tbf, didn't Czechloslovakia only kick out all the krauts because they had their own mini-hitler prior to getting absorbed by actual-Hitler?
If you're talking about beneś, he proposed the expulsion after the Munich agreement but was unable to follow through on it (being a government in exile and all)
I was specifically talking about the Sudentenland weirdo, which wikipedia tells me was named Konrad Henlein. A german nationalist who didn't live in germany and wanted his part of Czechia to be annexed even before Austria had been Anschluss.
Hmm, maybe some bias in those numbers.
It also seems that the agreed upon number more is 500,000-600,000 according to historians. The inflated numbers are basically black book style. Possibly rolling military deaths into civilian deaths and counting any German people who stayed as deaths when they really just stayed.
There was also the issue that the Nazi party had wide support in the eastern territories and keeping them there would have essentially given the west a 5 million strong nazi stay behind army (of which a good amount were families of soldiers fighting there or just straight up colonizers who moved there for libenstraum reasons)
Between 1945 and 1950, somewhere around 12 million ethnic Germans were forcibly expelled from within the new boundaries of Poland and Czechoslovakia.
Between 0.5 and 2.5 million people are claimed to have died during this expulsion.
Oof gotta say the population displacements the ussr performed are one of the few things I find no excuse for. Like line up all the nazis and shoot them, but displacing ethic groups is immoral no matter how you slice it.