East Prussians were expulsed because their country had just started WW2, committed the literal Holocaust and then rightfully got its shit kicked in. And this isn't event the first time i see an Atlantic council ghoul compare the displacement of Palestinians to that of people from the former easternmost parts of Germany (parts which were, btw, stolen from Polish and Baltic people in a settler colonialist expansion move to begin with). This is just another round of comparing Palestinians and the literal OG nazis, and once more it boils down to "well the literal fucking NSDAP was not as bad as these people whose hospitals have just been bombed to shit".
also they would go through and find records of voting for the NSDAP, if you abstained and did not settle or support the holocaust, you got to stay
turns out a lot of people supported the nazis
I actually don't know the history in detail, were the Germans in east Prussia actually removed or did they mostly just flee west to escape the soviets?
They were actually and forcibly removed, many of the postwar states expelled their German minorities
Here's a couple of wiki links cause im lazy
Tbf, didn't Czechloslovakia only kick out all the krauts because they had their own mini-hitler prior to getting absorbed by actual-Hitler?
If you're talking about beneś, he proposed the expulsion after the Munich agreement but was unable to follow through on it (being a government in exile and all)
I was specifically talking about the Sudentenland weirdo, which wikipedia tells me was named Konrad Henlein. A german nationalist who didn't live in germany and wanted his part of Czechia to be annexed even before Austria had been Anschluss.
From 1954 to 1961 the Schieder commission issued five reports on the flight and expulsions. The head of the commission Theodor Schieder was a rehabilitated former Nazi party member who was involved in the preparation of the Nazi Generalplan Ost to colonize eastern Europe. The commission estimated a total death toll of about 2.3 million civilians including 2 million east of the Oder Neisse line.
Hmm, maybe some bias in those numbers.
It also seems that the agreed upon number more is 500,000-600,000 according to historians. The inflated numbers are basically black book style. Possibly rolling military deaths into civilian deaths and counting any German people who stayed as deaths when they really just stayed.
There was also the issue that the Nazi party had wide support in the eastern territories and keeping them there would have essentially given the west a 5 million strong nazi stay behind army (of which a good amount were families of soldiers fighting there or just straight up colonizers who moved there for libenstraum reasons)
Between 1945 and 1950, somewhere around 12 million ethnic Germans were forcibly expelled from within the new boundaries of Poland and Czechoslovakia.
Between 0.5 and 2.5 million people are claimed to have died during this expulsion.
Oof gotta say the population displacements the ussr performed are one of the few things I find no excuse for. Like line up all the nazis and shoot them, but displacing ethic groups is immoral no matter how you slice it.
This is going to get me in trouble, but here goes
Fucking
tier opener, baiting for le Reddit gold from kind strangers.Update: Wow, so many approves! Thank u for the nobel peace price, kind stranger!
"Whoever you are, I have always depended on the kindness of strangers" - A redditor 1 nanosecond after receiving reddit gold for saying the most racist shit you have ever heard
That was ethnic cleansing, even if done by the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, but also other contemporary events such as Greek-Turkish population exchanges.
This guy is seeking approval by appealing to libs' moralism, or rather by reassuring them that what the Israeli State is doing is OK actually. Well, people forced out of their homes and forced to move many kilometers away because a state wants to move the line on the ground to a more favorable location might not agree.
But alas, liberals go by "does this make me feel good or bad?" instead of "what effect will this have?"
Without it, we would have current Ukraine shit all over entire central-eastern Europe, and not only now but for decades, imperialism would pump serious money ever since 1945 to stoke the conflicts. Terrorism, local wars, all manners of disruption, Soviet Army forced to intervene not twice but twenty times at least. Yugoslavia war would look as a picnic. This is unsolvable by libs because libs don't care about material conditions at all.
Not to mention if you look at this close, all those were literal decolonisation, especially the East Prussia which was archetypical settler state where Teutonic Knights and later Prussia invented and tested colonisation and genocide techniques used later by Brits, USA, nazis, Israel etc.
And even the nonexistent Prussia still does bear nazi fruits even today, through its not thoroughly enough liberated successor Baltic states.
Never EVER analyze why anything happens. Understanding history is just being able to list lots of things that happened.
This is going to get me in trouble, but here goes:
Fascists get the pit, racist fascists get the piranha pool.
At some point this became "politically incorrect" and a cardinal sin. When? Why?
"One more genocide, bro. Please just let us do one more genocide."
s have no right to say any race is criminally inclined when they are this obsessed with killing people they don't like.everyone else got to do one, why can't we? just one last genocide.. we'll make it worth your while i promise.. its not fair, how come everyone is so antisemitic whenever we try to do a little genocide and no one else gets flak for it.. this is bullshit.. jew haters suck.. cmon just one last genocide, please? we'll show you idf titties
everyone else got to do one, why can't we?
and by "everyone else" we mean "us"
Imagine being secure enough that you would tweet this out under your real name.
"This is going to get me in trouble..." yeah, good that they knew.
I was just thinking the same thing like dude just don’t fucking say it
If something was common in the past, then it can't be bad. Thanks twitter guy.
I appreciate that they're at least starting to admit that
is commiting ethnic cleansing. A few weeks ago you were being histrionic for pointing this outGreat strategy to legitimize ethnic cleansing right as the West is losing its hegemony and is about to spiral into a century of humiliation. Definitely won't regret it when Whiteoids start getting expelled back to Europe.
Europe belongs to the rest of the world, whitey can get deported to India or Thailand where they can deal with the climate they created
