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Are the Twitter debate-nerd vegan libs okay?
Removed by modNSFWBig horse-fucking discourse, apparently. Vegan debate nerds demand formal logical proofs before accepting that horse-fucking is bad.
Abolish debate club.
Unpictured (note: this person is a lib): Never thought I'd live to see the day where some lefties would be making biological essentialist arguments in regards to veganism.
Tweets in image:
https://twitter.com/OMN1SAM/status/1402853387339812864?s=19
https://twitter.com/OMN1SAM/status/1402858057290354688?s=19
https://twitter.com/OMN1SAM/status/1402858260630212609?s=19
Their first foray, before they corncobbed live on the TL: https://twitter.com/OMN1SAM/status/1402665321073315840?s=19
Where it began; or, horse-fucker zero: https://twitter.com/ChadNotChud/status/1402010588318928902?s=19
I discovered this just now and it brightened my morning and I wanted to share. It's rare to see such a pure little meltdown in the wild like this, especially after May!
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They're right; if it's wrong to exploit the bodies of animals for sexual pleasure because they can't consent, then it is also wrong to exploit the bodies of animals for taste pleasure because they can't consent.
The moral of the story is leave the animals alone you weirdos.
What did you expect, you literally imported it :michael-laugh:
Yeah and the correct answer is obviously that it's wrong to fuck horses, that's the entire point, do you not get that?
They keep interrogating exactly that obviously correct answer, which is what I'm making fun of.
It's a weird argument to choose to make, in a universe of so many other arguments, one could simply not make the horse fucking argument.
They're trying to do the Socratic method by imploring people to examine why they're against one but not the other, hoping to make them realize that they hold contradictory values and thus nudging them towards veganism.
It can be an effective argument, but of course this is Twitter so any interaction is going to turn to shit because the platform is inherently hostile to productive discussions.
But it's not going to be an effective argument because it goes straight for the jugular that eating meat is morally equivalent to horse fucking. Most people are going to be instantly pissed off and leave the conversation, or get angry and leave a shitty reply.
It's the same shit edgy internet atheists do by instantly saying that religious people worship a genocidal monster or whatever. It's not a good argument. These people also say they're using the socratic method to cover for being an asshole. Not every edgy internet argument or equivalence is "the socratic method"
These are good points to remember. No one cares about how technically correct your argument is -- if it sounds silly, invites ridicule, or even just annoys your target audience, you aren't going to accomplish very much.
Yeah pretty much. If they're just doing this to get a cheap dunk on meat eaters, have it at it. We do that type of thing on here all the time, making fun of libs and chuds in absurd ways. It's funny, it's cool. But if anyone thinks that this is going to actually be a convincing argument, it's not. No one will take you seriously like this.
I agree with that, debate club sucks because it frames a discussion as a game one can win, instead of a tool one uses to achieve understanding.
Bullying lib internet debate nerds is cool and good and it's a great pastime here from way back, if anyone gets upset because it's their debate nerds getting made fun of, that's their problem lol
Which pastime, Your account is 12 days old :side-eye-1:
One of the best tips in our post-Beatnik opsec thread was to regularly rotate accounts.
discourse
what's next, you redditors are going to whine about the 'Overton window'? grow up
Here we go again.
Not dunk tank worthy. You're just restarting a tired struggle session.
You're also reducing a conversation about consent to "Haha horsefucking!" to make it seem more hair-brained than it is.
Yeah there are a lot of vegans on this site. So many that when I first saw this post I thought it was the non-vegan being dunked on, lol.
Don't be a lifestylist consumerist, work for change https://www.abolitionistapproach.com/faqs/
Not this again... I swear you people don't have basic reading comprehension:
horse fucking is bad because you lack consent from the horse, therefore infringing on animal consent is bad which means that exploiting them is bad.
Not that hard to understand unless you are willfully obtuse.
Yeah I agree it's really bizarre to watch them double down on the horse-fucking argument. Must be obtuse. Just make a normal argument for God's sake!
Normal arguments have already been made multiple times but non-vegans don't care. But just in case you do care there it is:
Animalsfeel anguish and pain just as we do. They can be traumatized just as we can. The only real difference is that they are more vulnerable than us. They are not commodities and should not be treated like this. On top of that, we do not even need to eat them, we just do out of habit and because companies worth billions need us to keep doing it.
A shining example that I hope the denizens of Twitter can soon follow!
Actual picture of me every time I go on twitter outside of South Africa. I have now been doxxed, again.
It's this site as wwell now I think covid made people even more terminally online so now everyone is super invested in some really really weird online shit.
It's kind of like people who have been in a spaceship for 10 years arguing about their memories of what the earth was like lol
I mean yesterday was mostly weird bit posting, once you understood that it became readable. Today, I dunno man...
No I know about yesterday lol I'm talking about the last few weeks mostly.
Yeah I think the majority of this site is from the USA, so it makes sense. They've been told by the media for a whole year now that once they get the vaccine, everything will be back to normal ™. When that illusion being shattered now, they're coping in all sorts of ways, including weird hexbear.net posts
Just my personal theory.
If you can't give me facts and statistics proving your logical argument that horse fucking is bad, then, technically speaking, your argument is invalid, ipso facto, modus pollens, I win you lose
:expert-shapiro:
Twitter debate-nerd vegan libs
it's liberal and nerdy to use dialectics to work through contradictions with basic logic :mao-wave:
before they corncobbed live on the TL
I discovered this just now and it brightened my morning and I wanted to share. It’s rare to see such a pure little meltdown in the wild like this, especially after May!
This is a dunk about you
Damn sorry to hear you're having a bad morning, maybe try laughing at a lib?
Here's this dude's pinned tweet: https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/F4eYG9QGjt.jpg
There are surprisingly some totally moral and ethical reasons for having to do sexual things with an animal actually. Semen collection for scientific study is difficult, especially for aquatic animals, and sometimes scientists quite literally have to masturbate an animal in order to get a good sample for use in research or helping repopulate an endangered species. Granted, I suppose that isn't bestality in that the scientists certainly aren't doing it for their own sexual reasons so maybe it's not relevant lol
The LSD dolphin jerking-off half-flooded house was pretty neat tho
That meme, though. I’ve seen enough sinophobic Reddit moments over wholesome puppers getting killed by ravenous yellow hordes while beef/pork is totally different (nvm that pigs are more intelligent).
It's a good meme and illustrates the double standard pretty well.
It suddenly occurs to me that none of these cowards broached the real controversial topic here: man-on-horse cunnilingus
I'm not vegan btw but these are all valid points and you're shitstirring for no reason.
Also how is this "Horse fucking discourse?" The entire point is that it's BAD, to examine the double standard regarding consent.
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Unpopular opinion: if you want to spend time on the parts of the internet that are about politics, the most useful thing you can do there is either debate politics or look at politics being debated. It's definitely better than wasting time looking at memes and spamming the "please Xi, nuke us" emoji at everything. Sue me.
