Btw this so from post-Peru election, Fujimori supporters cry "fraud" and say they won't accept a Pedro Castillo presidency. Sauce here: https://twitter.com/kawsachunnews/status/1403140557145247745?s=21 Posting on /c/news since the thread is worth a read to get the contexts.

    • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      If you're an actual protester, you're going to use the language of the country you live in.

      Shit like this is just simping for US imperialism.

      • Civility [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        You have no idea what you're talking about.

        This is embarrassingly harmfully wrong.

                • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  How does any of this make it OK for Peruvian fascists to wear "better dead than red" t-shirts?

                  • Civility [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    The "better dead than red part" is the problem, not that it's in english.

                    A big part of the point of peaceful demonstrations is to attract support and positive media coverage. English signs help attract international support and positive international media coverage.

                    Writing a sign in english probably isn't something an individual going to a protest on their own is going to do, but it is something organisations organising or participating in protests often do to help push their own narrative in international media, and trying to convince people it's inherently delegitimizing is extremely harmful.

                    • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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                      3 years ago

                      english signs help attract positive international media coverage

                      Yeah, those "Save us President Trump" signs in Hong Kong sure were positive.

                      • Civility [none/use name]
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                        3 years ago

                        No shit, things reactionaries do are bad, news at 11.

                        Protest signs, and english protest signs, are a tool, like, for instance, guns.

                        You can point to a billion horrible things reactionaries have done with guns.

                        That in no way means a leftist holding a gun is inherently reactionary, delegitimizing or untrustworthy.

                  • SiskoDid2ThingsWrong [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    How does any of this make it OK for Peruvian fascists to wear “better dead than red” t-shirts?

                    It doesn’t? That clearly wasn’t the point they were making?

    • AFineWayToDie [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Well they sure as shit ain't convincing many people in their own countries.

    • NeverGoOutside [any]
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      3 years ago

      Only if your audience Is foreign US funding for your fascist bourgeois coup attempt.