Btw this so from post-Peru election, Fujimori supporters cry "fraud" and say they won't accept a Pedro Castillo presidency. Sauce here: https://twitter.com/kawsachunnews/status/1403140557145247745?s=21 Posting on /c/news since the thread is worth a read to get the contexts.
"Better dead then red" has to be the stupidest saying.
I'm like, yeah, nah I'm not gonna die for line go up, fuck you lmao.
nah I’m not gonna die for line go up
laughs in mandarin
You think fleeing from Communism makes Big Line Go Up? How many recessions do you think the capitalists will get before the end of this decade?
Probably the same reason I see a lot of "eat the rich" and similar stickers around my city even tho I live in Poland.
English is basically an universal language now, I don't think you need to overthink it.
Way more right wing movements use english than left wing.
But according to Adam Curtis and Dugin’s playbook from Russia, funding both sides can be useful. Perhaps that’s the deal in a fascist-run Poland, to keep those in power in check. But in most of the world it is the right wing that is connected to and funded by the US and global capitalist interests.
English is basically an universal language now
It's a business language. So if you're doing a lot of international trade and travel, it's incredibly useful.
But if you're trying to rally support for your cause in a country that is overwhelmingly Spanish speaking... ? It's like doing a publicity stunt in Mandurian from French Quebec.
Why are there American right-wingers who love Evola or talk about being "Volkish"? It's classic internationalism.
Comparing English to Mandarin, it just doesn't work. Not in the modern era. English is spoken as a 2nd language by people basically anywhere on earth, by people of basally every ideology, every race, nearly every ethnicity.
this website says that English is a mandatory subject in the school systems of 142 countries (Notice that Peru is one of them), and is a possible elective subject in 41.
A message written in Mandarin is basically a message that is only for Chinese people. A message in English is a message for nearly everyone
Well I do want to put on my nerd hat and claim these two are different phenomenons. This is actually closer to a Peru ver. Alt-right/Q situation, which means they are probably more influenced by American right-wingers via online interactions than any sector of the Peruvian society (even the conservative one).
This guy’s thread explains the situation better than my post. You could ignore my arguments and read the thread here: https://twitter.com/osamabishounen/status/1403148258407370752?s=21
The young male gusanos in their natural plumage, resident in capitals around the world, migrate back to their place of birth temporarily to secure their lifestyle and keep the country peasants in line.
Remember when the Hong Kong protesters had the “We love you Trump” signs
lmao that literally looks like the same Latin American upper middle-class reactionary white dude ctrl-c ctrl-v'd, we have that type of guy over here as well
I bet he has plenty of opinions about political correctness, invests in the stock market and is currently saving up money to go to Orlando... and I say he, not they because, as I said, it's literally just the same dude copy pasted three times
They're sending a message to the source of income they need to fund their sabotage and colour revolution activities. You don't get jack shit without demonstrating you can get bodies to do things first.
In future we'll be putting our signs in both English and Chinese as we ask them to fund our various orgs.
It's fairly common for protesters in many countries to carry English language signs. English is the global lingua franca, more widely spoken than any other language ever, and anyone who wants their message to be seen or heard by people in other countries might use English.
If you're an actual protester, you're going to use the language of the country you live in.
Shit like this is just simping for US imperialism.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
This is embarrassingly harmfully wrong.
How does any of this make it OK for Peruvian fascists to wear "better dead than red" t-shirts?
The "better dead than red part" is the problem, not that it's in english.
A big part of the point of peaceful demonstrations is to attract support and positive media coverage. English signs help attract international support and positive international media coverage.
Writing a sign in english probably isn't something an individual going to a protest on their own is going to do, but it is something organisations organising or participating in protests often do to help push their own narrative in international media, and trying to convince people it's inherently delegitimizing is extremely harmful.
english signs help attract positive international media coverage
Yeah, those "Save us President Trump" signs in Hong Kong sure were positive.
No shit, things reactionaries do are bad, news at 11.
Protest signs, and english protest signs, are a tool, like, for instance, guns.
You can point to a billion horrible things reactionaries have done with guns.
That in no way means a leftist holding a gun is inherently reactionary, delegitimizing or untrustworthy.
How does any of this make it OK for Peruvian fascists to wear “better dead than red” t-shirts?
It doesn’t? That clearly wasn’t the point they were making?
comrade, I'm trying to be polite here, but this is just absurdly untrue.
South Korea: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/4A38/production/_108300091_tv055475871.jpg
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190410131518-abortion-south-korea.jpg
Japan: https://i.insider.com/60982e07f22c6b00185dd2c6?width=700
https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/V24GCGFKEQI6VJB7NN4KNYFWNE.jpg
Greece: https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/17e612322e7b778d9d298fa7079d31cbc3d98da2/0_691_4608_2765/master/4608.jpg?width=700&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=0718f07de925dfba77d32ffa824ff1d2
https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/11534746-3x2-940x627.jpg
It's a thing that is done all over the world by both left and right. BTW, do not make the mistake of assuming that a sign written in English is necessarily directed at Native English speakers in America/UK/etc. English is spoken as a 2nd language by people all over the world and they use it as an auxiliary language to talk to each other as well.
Well they sure as shit ain't convincing many people in their own countries.
Only if your audience Is foreign US funding for your fascist bourgeois coup attempt.
they won’t accept a Pedro Castillo presidency
Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Despair, Acceptance
Guess they're somewhere between one and two.
because the intent to adressthe american puplic and not the peruvian one....
That's kinda what I was thinking. The United States is the imperial power that intervenes and replaces governments around the world on a whim. It's like making an appeal to the gods.
This is Pamela Landy, CIA Deputy Supervisor. We've received word you may need financial assistance in Peru in your fight against totalitarianism. Please call me at 1-800--IMA-CHAD for further details.
