Btw this so from post-Peru election, Fujimori supporters cry "fraud" and say they won't accept a Pedro Castillo presidency. Sauce here: https://twitter.com/kawsachunnews/status/1403140557145247745?s=21 Posting on /c/news since the thread is worth a read to get the contexts.

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    "Better dead then red" has to be the stupidest saying.

    I'm like, yeah, nah I'm not gonna die for line go up, fuck you lmao.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      nah I’m not gonna die for line go up

      laughs in mandarin

      You think fleeing from Communism makes Big Line Go Up? How many recessions do you think the capitalists will get before the end of this decade?

      • KasDapital [any]
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        3 years ago

        A lot based on how fucked the climate is gonna be.

  • gofer300 [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Probably the same reason I see a lot of "eat the rich" and similar stickers around my city even tho I live in Poland.

    English is basically an universal language now, I don't think you need to overthink it.

    • NeverGoOutside [any]
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      3 years ago

      Way more right wing movements use english than left wing.

      But according to Adam Curtis and Dugin’s playbook from Russia, funding both sides can be useful. Perhaps that’s the deal in a fascist-run Poland, to keep those in power in check. But in most of the world it is the right wing that is connected to and funded by the US and global capitalist interests.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      English is basically an universal language now

      It's a business language. So if you're doing a lot of international trade and travel, it's incredibly useful.

      But if you're trying to rally support for your cause in a country that is overwhelmingly Spanish speaking... ? It's like doing a publicity stunt in Mandurian from French Quebec.

      • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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        3 years ago

        Why are there American right-wingers who love Evola or talk about being "Volkish"? It's classic internationalism.

    • throwaway69 [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Well I do want to put on my nerd hat and claim these two are different phenomenons. This is actually closer to a Peru ver. Alt-right/Q situation, which means they are probably more influenced by American right-wingers via online interactions than any sector of the Peruvian society (even the conservative one).

      This guy’s thread explains the situation better than my post. You could ignore my arguments and read the thread here: https://twitter.com/osamabishounen/status/1403148258407370752?s=21

  • pluggd [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    The young male gusanos in their natural plumage, resident in capitals around the world, migrate back to their place of birth temporarily to secure their lifestyle and keep the country peasants in line.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    They're sending a message to the source of income they need to fund their sabotage and colour revolution activities. You don't get jack shit without demonstrating you can get bodies to do things first.

    In future we'll be putting our signs in both English and Chinese as we ask them to fund our various orgs.

  • joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    lmao that literally looks like the same Latin American upper middle-class reactionary white dude ctrl-c ctrl-v'd, we have that type of guy over here as well

    I bet he has plenty of opinions about political correctness, invests in the stock market and is currently saving up money to go to Orlando... and I say he, not they because, as I said, it's literally just the same dude copy pasted three times

    • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      If you're an actual protester, you're going to use the language of the country you live in.

      Shit like this is just simping for US imperialism.

      • Civility [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        You have no idea what you're talking about.

        This is embarrassingly harmfully wrong.

                • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  How does any of this make it OK for Peruvian fascists to wear "better dead than red" t-shirts?

                  • Civility [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    The "better dead than red part" is the problem, not that it's in english.

                    A big part of the point of peaceful demonstrations is to attract support and positive media coverage. English signs help attract international support and positive international media coverage.

                    Writing a sign in english probably isn't something an individual going to a protest on their own is going to do, but it is something organisations organising or participating in protests often do to help push their own narrative in international media, and trying to convince people it's inherently delegitimizing is extremely harmful.

                    • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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                      3 years ago

                      english signs help attract positive international media coverage

                      Yeah, those "Save us President Trump" signs in Hong Kong sure were positive.

                      • Civility [none/use name]
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                        3 years ago

                        No shit, things reactionaries do are bad, news at 11.

                        Protest signs, and english protest signs, are a tool, like, for instance, guns.

                        You can point to a billion horrible things reactionaries have done with guns.

                        That in no way means a leftist holding a gun is inherently reactionary, delegitimizing or untrustworthy.

                  • SiskoDid2ThingsWrong [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    How does any of this make it OK for Peruvian fascists to wear “better dead than red” t-shirts?

                    It doesn’t? That clearly wasn’t the point they were making?

    • AFineWayToDie [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Well they sure as shit ain't convincing many people in their own countries.

    • NeverGoOutside [any]
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      3 years ago

      Only if your audience Is foreign US funding for your fascist bourgeois coup attempt.

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    3 years ago

    they won’t accept a Pedro Castillo presidency

    Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Despair, Acceptance

    Guess they're somewhere between one and two.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      That's kinda what I was thinking. The United States is the imperial power that intervenes and replaces governments around the world on a whim. It's like making an appeal to the gods.

  • soufatlantasanta [any]
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    3 years ago

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