This TED talk was my most intensive look at the subject and I came out being positive about nuclear energy. I also really like research into solar cells that don't use metals like cobalt and lithium, though the abbreviation for those escapes me at the moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciStnd9Y2ak
Cities are the greenest option for human civilization
Well they can be with appropriate urban planning, but it's not an inherent property of urbanization (in which I include suburbs). Also, do you realize the paradox in your last sentence?
But I guess you convinced me to continue watching.
Do you honestly think suburbs are worth having? For a slightly larger home and longer commuting that requires cars and the extenssive road infrastruckture and its absolutely not better for the environment in any way
I don't think that at all and don't understand how you came to think I was (downvotes not from me, I'm genuinely trying to get your point).
My take was more that "cities = good because if pollution in city, then pollution not in nature" is a very, very dumb argument (I know that was not exactly @Owl's argument though, just the way it's presented in the video)
This TED talk was my most intensive look at the subject and I came out being positive about nuclear energy. I also really like research into solar cells that don't use metals like cobalt and lithium, though the abbreviation for those escapes me at the moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciStnd9Y2ak
this dude is a massive shill and his new climate book is more or less denialism. Take his BS with a massive grain of salt.
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I stopped listening there. Give me one good reason to listen to the other 19 minutes.
The alternatives are suburbs (an environmental nightmare of pavement, lawns and cars) or a mass reduction in the world's population (fascist).
Cities are the greenest option for human civilization, because it leaves most of the world to not be a city.
Well they can be with appropriate urban planning, but it's not an inherent property of urbanization (in which I include suburbs). Also, do you realize the paradox in your last sentence?
But I guess you convinced me to continue watching.
i guess we just need to keep the population in check
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wtf does that mean?
Do you honestly think suburbs are worth having? For a slightly larger home and longer commuting that requires cars and the extenssive road infrastruckture and its absolutely not better for the environment in any way
I don't think that at all and don't understand how you came to think I was (downvotes not from me, I'm genuinely trying to get your point).
My take was more that "cities = good because if pollution in city, then pollution not in nature" is a very, very dumb argument (I know that was not exactly @Owl's argument though, just the way it's presented in the video)
urbanization is good
its inevitable
Then don't? I don't know. I'm no expert