Fuck you. Just fuck you Marvel.
Yeah, that’s the point where I’m at with this studio. It’s done. Everything has been butchered beyond repair. Everything in the MCU storyline has been destroyed. Everything I’ve cared about in the MCU and every action that has been taken by the characters has been rendered meaningless. This show literally strips any and all free will from all the characters, whom we previously thought were all making meaningful choices, as well as from any choices that will be made in the future.
Nothing the character’s did meant anything because every single choice they made was actually made for them at the whim of three fucking lizard people. And then later on, it’s revealed that the TVA has like 20 infinity stones and they just toss them into a draw like it’s nothing.
I am not fucking kidding. I wish I was making that up. Fuck me.
The world building this series spent 11 years in the making has been rendered pointless on a monumental scale. The entire continuity has been rendered meaningless. This entire show is built on a fundamentally broken premise. There is no saving it.
Honestly this series can get fucked with a cactus and I couldn’t possibly give less of a shit. I’m done. This show has officially broke me. I won’t be watching the rest of this series, and I can’t promise I’ll be watching anymore future MCU content unless they get their shit together.
The series that I’ve been with since I was 8 years old is so bad now that I don’t even wish to continue watching it anymore. What a sad fucking day.
The TVA is an allegory for the actual comic book writers. It appeared in the comics as a bit. The moustache guy is modelled on the dude who actually got to approve storylines IRL. If the bit bothers you, you're taking capeshit waaay to seriously. In fact, the relative pointlessness of the infinity stones is the point, since its a freaking super hero movie and the stakes were always non-existent to begin with
No science-fiction narrative survives the time machine unless it's carefully built around it
Couldn't agree more. It forever trivializes any danger, and minimizes the severity of any and every situation, because it can be the catch all bandaid.
That sounds like something Vonnegut would have said about his own work, honestly
There was some sci-fi story that had time travel but they could not interfere with anything, they were essentially ghost observers. Can't remember the name.
Not to mention the time turner was used so Hermione could be even more of an insufferable know it all, and to save a hippogriff. There are a million other times that work have come in handy. It's like how raiders of the lost ark didn't need to happen cause the Nazis nuked themselves when they opened the ark.
Pretty sure Asimov wrote a short with this premis, but I think this comic is my favorite iteration of the idea:
http://www.viruscomix.com/page585.html
I like that the first thing they did when they brought in time travel was to shit on BTTF and most of time travel fiction for being 'wrong' about how time travel works. Normally my attitude for this type of thing would be "chill out, enjoy the story that's being told, and don't worry about the minor technical details" but you don't really get to use that defense when that's the stance you take.
Haven't seen any of this show anyway, so whatever.
The only author I have come across that has done time travel right is Stephen Baxter.
To be totally fair I have 0 investment in MCU. I was tired of comic book movies back in the original xmen trilogy lol. Like I recognize a lot of people like it so cool I wouldn’t take it away from people but I haven’t spent any time on these.
But even still I just wouldn’t get that worked up about... any media property really
I mean they did type a long ass vitriolic post screaming obscenities about a children’s movie. I think you may just have a particular high tolerance/acceptance for people having freak outs about inconsequential shit lol
I couldn't imagine getting this upset about some schlock meant to sell $15 popcorn
MCU as a concept has always been incongruent with reality though. As early as avengers 1 there have been world-shattering events that would totally alter the timeline. Look at what happened after 9/11 and imagine if that happened to the entire city of NY. And then they expect us to believe that having half of human population disappear overnight wouldn't result in any major societal changes - give me a fucking break.
The shows tend to focus on the after math of big events more then the movies ever do. The entirety of Falcon and the Winter Soldier is focused on the aftermath of the snap.
Isn't it still possible that the TVA, on some level, is full of it? An organization deciding the "right way" for the literal flow of time to go and destroying entire realities that deviate seems like a setup for some sort of twist.
I guess my take is that it's too soon to know. If predestination is ACTUALLY a thing in the MCU, then I agree with you entirely, because that sucks
Marvel fans are managing to reverse-engineer the Warhammer 40k fandom's "IT WAS ALL PART OF THE SCHEMES & MACHINATIONS OF TZEENTCH" in real time.
This rant has Game of Thrones Season 8 deranged fan vibes.
I haven't watched any of the Loki garbage but tossing the infinity stones in a drawer honestly sounds hilarious and cool.
Great review, much better than usual whining about diversity or soy facing about dumb easter eggs. Accurately explains the problem of Marvel's endless slop, you are bound to get diminishing utility at some point
shidding and farding at the accusation that capeshit slop is Not Actually Very Good
very action that has been taken by the characters has been rendered meaningless.
Of course it's meaningless it's fiction that's the whole point.
That is not a good way to look at media at all. I don't believe the writer of this review thought that MCU characters had impacts on the real world, but their actions and decisions were meaningful within the narrative. If you are trying to write a serious story, then the actions your characters take need to have weight and meaningfully impact the world around them. If Odysseus wasn't in the Iliad, then the Greeks may never have made the Trojan horse and would have left empty-handed, no storming of Troy and no divine punishment for their rape of the Vestal Virgins.. His inclusion in the narrative, and choices he made, had meaning in the world. In the same way, MCU characters made certain decisions throughout the movies that had meaningful impacts on the world. Iron Man decided to not let the nuke hit New York, for example. But now it turns out Iron Man was only allowed to do that. He didn't make a decision, his thoughts, feelings, and actions which the viewers enjoyed and sympathized with are now completely meaningless. If he were a large bee the end result would be the exact same. That makes the characters way less compelling and interesting in any story, finding out that their inner life is meaningless and they were going to have the same impact no matter what they did. There are ways to tell that kind of story well, like in the Greek Tragedies where the conflict against inevitable fate is the key part of the story. The point of a story is to make you care about the actions and consequences a character will endure within a fictional world, and the results this will have on the world.
The best Superman story (Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? ) opens with a brief narration, which basically sums up superhero comics as a whole in a beautiful way
This is an IMAGINARY STORY (which may never happen, but then again may) about a perfect man who came from the sky and did only good. It tells of his twilight, when the great battles were over and the great miracles long since performed; of how his enemies conspired against him and of that final war in the snowblind wastes beneath the Northern Lights; of the women he loved and of the choice he made between them; of how he broke his most sacred oath, and how finally all the things he had were taken from him save one. It ends with a wink. It begins in a quiet midwestern town, one summer afternoon in the quiet midwestern future. Away in the big city, people still sometimes glance up hopefully from the sidewalks, glimpsing a distant speck in the sky... but no: it's only a bird, only a plane — Superman died ten years ago. This is an IMAGINARY STORY .. Aren't they all?
I don't watch marvel someone fill me in on why they're so mad
Isn't this Tenant, but with merchandise?
IDK I kind of lost the plot of Tenant two hours in.
Isn’t tenant is about a guy traveling back in time to give a wedgie to his landlord and save the planet?
