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I use windows and the most recent update that added a weather forecast on the taskbar made my medioicre PC slower to start than my crummy laptop that I only use to study.
Windows stay winning 😎
:no-choice: we have no choice but to abandon linux
:programming-communism: Uninstalling communism [#######=======]
Modern linux distros, and especially with KDE stuff (so Kubuntu/KDE Neon) is just amazing. It's a very easy jump from windows because plasma can have a windows-y setup and look. Unless you have really bad luck and very specific hardware weirdness, shit just works from the start. The proprietary drivers for Nvidia can shit the bed, that's true, but sadly that's nobody's fault except Nvidia who refuse to fucking open-source them. And unless you play a lot of specifically incompatible games, something like 80% of my steam library is either Native or basically native through proton, and another good 15% works through proton with a few commands/fixes that were listed on the proton website. I rarely have to think about the fact that I'm on linux, and when I do I just check the protonDB website and see what commands/fixes people there suggest and it works.
The only thing that can have little issues is audio but those are getting fixed constantly. I really hate pulseaudio and jack so the one big thing i'm super excited for is for pipewire to get better and become the new standard, which should happen very soon given how stable it already is.
audio is already flawless on the linux desktop
pulseaudio just works, it just detects everything and works
pipewire also just works as well, i've been using it for like months now and it's stable as hell
It works with default stuff and setup sure. if you want to do anything beyond that tho it's complete hell. Trying to setup audio-pulse for recording things or streaming things for example is incredibly annoying. A lot of audio related software (audio production, etc..) avoids PA completely and requires jack, which is even more annoying to setup and configure and maintain, especially if you do it on your regular machine and want it to work alongside PA, or if you want to replace PA with jack permanently and have it auto-start, etc..
Basically if it works (which it probably will) it's fine, but if there's issues they can be almost impossible to fix (I for example have a weird stutter bug that randomly happens on a music player app, or my mic keeps resetting to its default volume and removing my settings, etc..). I don't want to shit on the insane work that went into PA and ALSA, I love the people who made it and contributed, but at this point it is a big trashpile of code that is increasingly difficult to maintain, isn't very flexible (specific software needs and setups are basically impossible without a lot of hacks) and has a lot of compatibility issues.
Recording from a digital piano has been a fucking nightmare. It seems to be totally random when it works and when it doesn't.
pipewire does work though and it has clients for alsa, jack, and pulseaudio
pipewire is already complete on the audio side, the only side it's incomplete in is the video side
Yes? I know, that's why I mentioned i'm excited for it to be the new standard. It works but it's not fully available/integrated into OS as a standard, such as on ubuntu. I know I can install it right now and it would work, but I'm waiting until it's mature and fully standard.
Yep, this. I use arch (btw) with KDE, and there's no way I could use Windows or macOS. I need the flexibility and cheap software for both my personal projects and my job. I think what probably makes it is that I'm not a high-end gamer, just a few easier Steam games now and again and some classics like Age3.
I do really like Pipewire. There are definitely some crinkles still to iron out but it's really coming along and simplifies everything so much.
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
It isn't broken, it sometimes requires some work, but it's worth it to have the security of knowing I'm not being keylogged 24/7 by the NSA or lining the pockets of Billy G - amongst other things.
Ubuntu/Mint etc aren't as exciting as Manjaro, but they also just work without any extra effort.
I installed Mint yesterday, I cannot for the life of me get Gsync to work with multiple displays. Also every few minutes my keyboard stops working and I have to unplug it and plug it back in.
I want to make the switch to linux, I really do but every time I install linux I find a bunch of reasons why I can't use it.
Unfortunately Nvidia hardware is not ideal for Linux due to the proprietary drivers, I've had trouble with them in the past and now just try to avoid Nvidia hardware if possible. The keyboard thing is odd, is it plugged in to a usb hub and then in via usb c? Sometimes I need to unplug mine and plug it back in after waking from suspend and it only happens when plugged in through my usb c hub with monitors plugged in to that.
Regarding Gsync and Freesync, there's been a lot of work on them for KDE Plasma so I'd consider picking a stable distro with KDE Plasma. I'd recommend Kubuntu but it doesn't have the latest version of Plasma.
Oh and the KDE community is really helpful and you can contact them via reddit, telegram or matrix
I like operating systems that don’t get bricked by installing real drivers.
You just said you like Windows tho?
yeah whenever shit's fucked up, it's usually because you did something stupid, not the operating system's fault
B-b-but I only had to install 9383910 mods to get audio working
Srasly tho, power to linux users, but i'll keep letting the Microsoft spy on me if it means I can play my vidya easier
I seriously don't understand this problem. I have more driver issues with Windows than with Linux.
With Linux everything I have just works as soon as I plug it in. Especially anything having to do with graphics that isn't directX related.
Also tons of reverse engineering driver projects for hardware that's out of date. My 2003 printer doesn't work on windows, but it works on Linux because someone figured out the drivers and released it for free.
Also unlike windows, if I have an issue I don't have to download executables from weird websites and can get them from trusted repositories and update everything I have installed with one command.
With Linux everything I have just works as soon as I plug it in
Complete opposite of my experience but it's definitely gotten easier to use if you're a dumb guy like me
As Windows continues to lose support for devices as market share shrinks, Linux support grows. More and more manufacturers are supporting Linux out of the box now, and Linux is actually amazing at just having the drivers needed for a device.
With Windows, every wireless card I've had has required me to use another device to download drivers from their website and install them, but never on Linux. They all just work.
i have literally never had a single issue with audio in like 5 years of using linux that i couldn't find the solution to in like a minute
i'll gladly let windows spy on me as long as i don't have to learn anything about how computers work
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blame Nvidia for making shitty drivers, not linux. the open source AMD drivers work perfectly 99.9% of the time
I've straight up told people that Linux is a better operating system.
I have also never installed Linux on my main computer and probably never will.
It's the better operating system, but it's intentionally hobbled by proprietary software.
I think that's gonna change soon though. Microsoft sees the writing on the wall and will probably open source Windows sometime in the next decade to keep it relevant. Most computers run some form of GNU + Linux kernel (Android, servers, smart tvs, e-readers, tablets, anything small with an operating system really) and Windows market share has become essentially just the consumer market. The only thing keeping it alive is gaming and Autodesk/Adobe.
They're at a point where Windows has become almost unmaintainable. It's collapsing under its own weight. There are systems in there that haven't changed since 2000. Their development team is just not large enough and never will be. At some point the only profitable thing will be to open source Windows and it's proprietary drivers and focus on userspace apps like office and industrial tech support.
Especially after seeing the leaked Windows 11. Nothing has changed. It's just 10 with a skin. Meanwhile every year GNU/Linux gets massive increases in usability and appearance. It also has the benefit of being able to use way more filesystem types and utilize a more intuitive installation/application layer. Windows tried with the Windows store, but apt/pacman are just amazing tools that can't exist in the same way outside an open source system.
Oh yeah, I've been rebuilding a lot of my models in FreeCAD, it's just not an industry standard so you can't really use it for work.
I think the fact that it's Python based is going to catapult it into relevance soon. Python is replacing lisp as the scripting language of choice for modeling thanks to Blender.
The fact that it's easy to make extensions for it is a huge benefit as well. I think as Autodesk continues to screw people over with license changes we're gonna see huge shifts towards existing open source projects like FreeCAD and Kicad (Kicad already has Cern backing it)
Also, while FreeCAD is a bit clunky and unintuitive for amateurs, it also forces best practices. I can make functional parts in Fusion that are absolutely garbage and unconstrained that break the second I change anything. FreeCAD forces you to constrain your sketches and dimension everything properly before it spits out a body which is annoying, but also good.
They’re at a point where Windows has become almost unmaintainable. It’s collapsing under its own weight. There are systems in there that haven’t changed since 2000. Their development team is just not large enough and never will be. At some point the only profitable thing will be to open source Windows and it’s proprietary drivers and focus on userspace apps like office and industrial tech support.
This right here is the reason why I've always been so disappointed by every new Windows version. It's like, Linux does the most insane shit with the GUI and yet every Windows edition is so clunky in terms of user interface.
The moment the tide turns for vidya, I'm jumping ship.
arguably, the tide has already turned for vidya. large swathes of the steam store are available for linux, either natively or through wine/proton
check if the games you play are available on linux (protondb, winedb, lutris), if they are, then you no longer have any excuse not to switch
i'm a simp for the penguin, but
will probably open source Windows sometime in the next decade to keep it relevant.
?????????? they have like 75% market share and their main competitor is still MacOS. i've noticed among FOSS Freaxx there's this consistent inability to understand why people in general use software and how they decide which software to use verging on willful delusion, as if ext4 support is a killer app.
pacman ... amazing tool
MacOS is still based on an open source operating system. It's just using the BSD kernel which has a more permissive license. Windows has also been tending more towards open source lately.
Dos/NT is a dying system.
And again, that's just the consumer desktop market which is significantly less lucrative than the industrial/webserver market. I know like 4 people who've ever paid for windows.
Open sourcing it will bring a lot of industrial users back as being able to modify and maintain the system from in house will outweigh the costs and they'll still be able to charge for support and services.
There's the problem with the FOSS "movement"; Megacorps using open source software to develop profitable proprietary software is considered a win. Obvious EEE tactics like WSL which seek to bring previously plural, rhizomatic structures of organization into the fold of Big Tech are hailed as victories. There is no vision of what liberatory computing would look like. The tech hippies want to defeat the evil empire by competing with them on the open market, yet they have no consideration for what would even work as a competitive product.
Jesus I sound like an ML.
I support FOSS in the same way I'd support social democrats against a king. It's a step in the right direction. It's the public transportation with fares version of software as opposed to the private vehicles that are closed source software.
The most important part of open source software is accessibility. No one can afford a license for non-free software that costs like $5000/year except schools and companies. I really think that the digital sphere is the same as the real world, but with the contradictions even more heightened because it's a space that's functionally post-scarcity and everyone knows it.
The fact that you can be charged for numbers and people are telling you that they own numbers is an almost impossible contradiction for most people to reconcile. The FOSS "movement" is the first bourgeois revolution, as it reveals its solutions to the contradictions are lacking, that's when the second revolution comes.
you really should install it, ubuntu and popos are both pretty easy to get started with
