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This will become common as owners refuse to conduct proper maintenance; and as developers pay legislators to stop any bills that might enforce higher standards.
Haha Chinese infrastructure is garbage and will collapse any second, amirite?
I wonder how all the :reddit-logo: who laughs at similar disasters in developing countries thinks about this
I wonder how many subs it will be posted in to gawk at? I wonder where the accusations of a cover-up are?
As a side note, I remember when the Tianjin explosion happened and :reddit-logo: was shitting their pants about a supposed cover-up. I happened to be in China at that time and there was basically nonstop coverage for weeks on end
oooo, that reminds me to place some prop bets on the three gorges dam surviving this year's flood season.
I don't even know what to say. This is really awful. How is anyone supposed to feel sale in similar buildings now? Looking at the pics there are other similar apartments around it
I have cynical takes, but it’s still so raw. I have reason to believe is could be a herald to other development projects of the last 40 years
idk they seem desperate for content after the latest episode about, schools?
Miami, huh. Could gusanos had been building explosives (rockets?) in there, causing this? Or maybe they did a terrorism?
If this was in China there would be no hesitation when it comes to baseless conspiracies, I don't see why we should hold back!
It was obviously the site of the Italian-American genocide, and they blew up the building to cover it up!
Probable causes: Improperly mixed concrete, poorly-built foundations in a porous region, "skimming off the top" of the reinforcing steel.
Also it's Florida, so the official statement will be something along the lines of a "orbital coronavirus 5g soy laser"
Caveat: I obviously don't know the details and I'm also not in any physical engineering or construction field.
This building was also literally right on the beach (map screenshot) that was on a teeny tiny little isthmus between the atlantic ocean and biscayne bay (second map screenshot). Given that it's florida, the bedrock is most likely just a pile of sand and shells or at best like limestone.
Edit: Roof work was apparently being done on the building at the time, per the mayor (who "doesn't believe it was the reason for the collapse") but it could've been a factor
Couple structural collapse episodes of Well There's Your Problem for the more general answers to "how things like this happen" (the short version is capitalism):
- Hyatt Regency Walkway Collapse, ft. Kate Wagner of McMansion Hell
- Sampoong Department Store Collapse only their second ep so they're still finding their footing a little
- Florida International University footbridge collapse
The Miami Herald article about this has three sentences about the collapse and three paragraphs on all the building amenities and how much a unit cost. I was trying to find out if people evacuated or if it was still occupied, nope we will report on the Zillow ads.
I went on the Miami subreddit to search for local theories about why it happened so that you don't have to. Here are a few, including some that pass the buck around.
- In terms of buck passing, apparently they have a neighbor that was under construction and the people that lived in the now collapsed building complained about vibrations.
- Another theory is that recently someone saw cranes placing heavy machinery on the roof of the collapsed building
- BTW, since this building was built 40 years ago, it doesn't fall under building code made after hurricane Andrew, which the redditors are implying was a big turning point nearly 30 years ago. I'm not in construction so I wouldn't know whether or not the changes were drastic.
- Someone else is saying inspectors knew there was too much sand mixed into the concrete (due to lax building codes) but looked away because luxury condos pay a ton in taxes.
- And finally, of course it could just be a sinkhole. This is Florida after all, sinkholes are very common when you build on a fucking SWAMP right next to the fucking OCEAN.
So TLDR; capitalist greed is the most probable cause.
EDIT: Here's a firefighter photo of the scene. Here's surveillance footage of the actual collapse.
which the gusanos are implying was a big turning point nearly 30 years ago.
what's the issue with this I don't understand?
Isn't it common to update building codes after major disasters? Do Cuban expatriates have something to do with building codes?
Nah sorry, I just don't like going to the Miami subreddit in general, I'll edit that out.
oh shit. man I love to root for the sinking of florida (especially miami beachfront) but it's still really awful.
It's in a big vacationy area right on the beach, all sandwiched in with resorts and beach condos, so I wonder if it was mostly timeshares and shit
Surfside's mayor confirmed at least one person was killed in the collapse.
have the bad faith arguments defending suburban low density sprawl started yet
um actually the genital inspections were called off :kubrick-stare:
