:reddit-logo: having a normal one. Some comrades in the trenches giving good pushback but otherwise that thread is full of :brainworms: :zenz:

  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I talk about the same shit we talk about on here but in person at work with anyone any chance I get, and I gotta say it's just deeply culturally ingrained. It's not even an op at this point (though it is the result of decades of shit like COINTELPRO). Americans by and large repeat and perpetuate anti-communist bullshit completely unaware and uncaring of its origins. We are so deeply indoctrinated that they don't even need to run active psyops.

    • Gkalaitza [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      but but i was told this was only a phenomenon in terminaly online "leftists" and not irl and it doesnt matter cause it doesnt represent large scale real life trends in thinking among the "left"

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        My favorite was a self proclaimed Trotskyist who also thought Lenin was too "violent" lol. Very very very few people in the US have anything close to resembling a coherent political worldview.

    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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      3 years ago

      One of the most important factors in me becoming a leftist was my weird obsession with Austro-Hungaria and the Byzantine Empire. No, I'm, not kidding. I learned about how much Russia sucked under the Czars as compared to other monarchies, so without even questioning or doubting US propaganda, I came to the conclusion Russians and other Eastern European people were better off, or at least just as well off, under communism(as I was told it was at the time) as they were before. I also was aware that the US was just in a better area resources and crop wise, so it made sense we were materially better off. I got made fun of in history classes for pointing this out, but no one could ever actually address my arguments. A bunch of other things happened too, but the underpinnings of the most basic propaganda not making sense historically or materially was vital.