This is the Venice Simplon Orient Express. It costs around €3000 per person for an overnight trip and a cabin from Paris to Venice.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    It's very impressive but bougie bullshit like that belongs in a museum.

  • kulak_inspektor [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Too little leg room, look how narrow that center aisle is with the footstools and coffee tables in the way

    • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      It only goes up from there. Some of the bougier cabins on longer trips will run you tens of thousands. It's fucked.

      • VILenin [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Now, and listen here, Jack, what if we had nice trains (with modern conveniences ofc) that the average person could afford, and it was high speed?

        Ok Jack, here comes the fun part. Now if we built a bridge across the Bering Strait, we could, uhh, you know the thing. In this essay, I will

    • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Wes Anderson needs to make another good movie. One that is different from his bad movie(s). No I will not explain which are good or bad, or how many are good or bad.

  • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    On one hand would love to enjoy a cup of tea, served in expensive china while dressed in a full Victorian tea dress while investing a misterious murder together with a charming sidekick/love interest... On the other - the problem is not with luxuy per se, it's that this luxury is guarded off and unaffordable to the common person.

  • medium_adult_son [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I'd like an option for a futon seat on an overnight train, so you can chill and eat/drink, then fold it down to sleep. No private cabin needed.

    • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      The concept of sleeping in an open public area around strangers terrifies me. The possibility of some pervy dude watching me sleep or potentially touching me is fucking hellish.

      • Quimby [any, any]
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        3 years ago

        That can be countered with sufficiently good culture, I think. Like, in a culture where people looked out for each other and had a really no-nonsense attitude about stuff like that. (This being a hypothetical; I don't know that there are any cultures I would characterize as sufficiently protective/supportive in this regard, other than micro-cultures like a specific school or something.)

        • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          Idk. I guess the only experience I've ever had where I've felt comfortable with the concept of sleeping around people I'm not super close with, especially in a mixed gender environment was probably camping with Scouts/Venturers/Rovers as a teen? Like, I knew most people well enough and felt sort of baseline comfortable enough with people that sleeping near the few people that were strangers (esp. male strangers) wasn't entirely nightmarish.

          I guess my point is, it's difficult to find a way to be comfortable knowing that people are gross and that if you're sleeping in an open space, there's always a small chance you'll wake up at 4 am to pee and discover some horny creep is staring at your boobs and has his hand down his pants and nobody noticed or if they did they felt too uncomfortable to do something. Idk.

      • medium_adult_son [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        That's a good (sad) point, people are creeps. Futon cubbies then? The seats on Amtrak are already adequate for sleeping anyway, so maybe we can stick with those. I just want more trains in the US 🥲

        • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          A lot of overnight trains will have very small private rooms which usually have either couchettes or actual little sleeper beds and these fold-down beds that are around the size of a submarine bunk, usually in 2, 4, or 6 berth rooms.

          I wouldn't describe them as super comfy, but they're kind of like a capsule hotel on wheels.

          • medium_adult_son [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I'll have to check one of those out, thanks. I used to sleep in a closet as a kid, so sleeping in a tiny room sounds great to me.

            • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
              hexagon
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              3 years ago

              VIA Rail and Amtrak in CA and US respectively both have sleeper cabins, though I've never actually been in one of the VIA ones. I gotta ride more trains once transit opens up and the pandemic isn't such an issue.

  • hahafuck [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I don't see that luxury trains like this negatively affect the system as a whole, so I'm not against it besides it just being decadent luxury I couldn't afford, but would probably do if i could tbh

  • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Looks cramped as fuck and youd have to stare at the people ahead of you to sit

    • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      It's a lounge car, so it's a place to go to sit down and talk to strangers or others in your group and chill. I've also heard that phones don't work for shit, and wifi is nonexistent so it's kind of a "not a cell phone in site, just ppl living in the moment" kind of vibe on the train, so people are liable to mingle and tell interesting stories. Personally as a transit nut, I'd love to talk to people that work on the train.