you know how people, especially on twitter, try and share their absolute dogshit takes without a care for humility, just unbribled stubbornness
everybody seem so full of themselves and I just can't bring myself to trust anyone unless they show a hint of doubt over their own thoughts, and that's flat out absent from most social media
idk, I don't think I did a good jb describing what I feel, it's hard to accurately put into words
but like, do you have stuff you usually keep to yourself, because like you know the thought isn't well rounded or something and you don't want to say something incorrect. or like interrogations about stuff you can't really answer by yourself
The whole age of consent discourse has been thoroughly fucked by libertarians wanting to fuck kids, and there’s so much to dissect there.
The big thing is, there are all the contradictions of American Puritanism. Children are to be sheltered, innocent, asexual snowflakes. But they’re also sexualised to hell and back, especially at the boundary of 17-18.
It reminds me a bit of the whole drinking age thing. America has a huge drinking culture, but it’s really puritanical about when you can start drinking. Just giving a person under 21 alcohol is a crime. For them to have it, again, is a major no-go. Yet in other countries, NZ in particular, it’s normal for kids to try their parents’ alcohol, or to experiment in high school. Some parents even buy their kids alcohol, and it’s legal for them to do so.
But just raising it is, again, weird af, because no one wants pedo apologia in their community (except libertarians), and a whole lot of the potential discourse can veer into that really quickly.
There’s also the (honestly ridiculously high) amount of CSA around, and no one wants to subject CSA survivors to that sort of discourse out of the blue.
The fact age of consent laws have become so taboo to talk about among left circles is pretty stupid, imo. There is still a lot of work to be done about them in America specifically and the fact it is so taboo really makes dealing with that injustice a much harder task.
In "commiefornia" the "left dreamland" they still dont even have romeo and juliet laws meaning an 18 year old having sex with a 17 year old can be charged with a crime - it's extremely dumb and basically leaves children at the mercy of the police state for doing things that are absolutely normal for teens to do. Then the fact they were charged with a "sex crime" makes it even more taboo and the facts dont even end up mattering. This has been a thing for literally decades and still there has been no real political will to change it which is disgusting.
Legal adulthood is largely nonsensical in general - the amount of things that are technically criminal either before or after an arbitrary number (which is largely inconsistent) feels designed purely to control and oppress. I have a friend who lost his scholarship and got into legal trouble for being behind the bar at a party with a bunch of college kids at it. Every single person there was an "adult" but not the arbitrary number deemed adult adult and so he was punished for it. The leeway the police have with the amount of charges he could have gotten is some psycho shit as well - his entire life could have been ruined over a generic party entirely of adults.
I wont even get into the cringe "wokeness" of some on the left when it comes to like 5 year age gaps between 20 year olds because those people are as moronic as the people who write these laws. Puritan cringe shit.
I think it's a good tactical choice to just leave that alone until we're a hell of a lot closer to socialism. One thing that can kill outsider political movements is trying to push every possible policy change at once instead of focusing on a few of the most important ones, getting that done, and building from there.
so, never?
You act as if putting children in prison for having sex is a touchy subject when in reality it is something that isnt done in literally every other developed country in the world. Romeo and Juliet laws are the least controversial thing there fucking is and still people like you pretend it is some extremely taboo subject. You are exactly the person I was talking about.
In America they can and do charge children with "manufacturing child pornography" for sending pictures of themselves to other teens. Something a majority of the non-incel teen population has done at some point. This is not a reality in even America-lite Canada as it has been very obviously decided that is not the intention of anti-child sexual abuse laws. This is not a taboo subject. Stop treating it like it is.
There are a lot of things that are touchy subjects in the U.S. even though they're ordinary everywhere else in the world. That's what we're working with.
This is bad and we should fix it, but it's one narrow corner of the topic and -- realistically, in the U.S. -- you still have to handle it delicately.
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High school kids who have naked pictures of themselves on their phone are committing a felony. Let that sink in.