When the Ukraine war kicked off there were Ukraine flags all over the place. All the lib houses with the "we believe in signs" had it up. Now I'm not surprised they aren't flying Palestinian flags right now, but I haven't seen a single one and I'm in "blue hole" part of the country. I would expect to see something more than the occasional pin or button. It pisses me off that people still have out their sunbleached Ukraine flags while there is a blantant genocide going on. Truly it reveals the liberal libidinal urge for permission.

Is there a better place to buy a Palestinian flag than amazon?

EDIT: I dont expect the same houses flying Ukrainian flags to fly Palestinian flags. I just expect some homes in my city to be flying a Palestinian flag. Its such a blue hole that theres actually a socialist presence. I know there's people who support Palestine here. I'm not worried about a Zionist lynch mob.

  • GeorgeZBush [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    As others have said, libs don't support Palestine, but also I feel like the more common way to demonstrate solidarity is to wear a keffiyeh.

    Also you won't get accused of antisemitism for flying a Ukraine flag.

    • CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml
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      7 months ago

      Also you won’t get accused of antisemitism for flying a Ukraine flag.

      Ironic considering You Crane is run by banderites.

        • invo_rt [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          Literally "I have a friend who's black so I can't be racist" logic.

      • GeorgeZBush [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        Ummm no sweaty, Zelenskyyksyyyy is like Harry Potter. Is Harry Potter antisemitic??

        stares at the camera like RedLetterMedia

    • spectre [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Many younger, offline liberals support Palestine

  • OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    Because the ADL is a ridiculously outsizedly powerful lobby with data collecting and doxxing operations on dissidents and a misstep can end your ability to find gainful employment, possibly forever. Read up a bit on their pro-apartheid activities back in the day, it's crazy.

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      hexagon
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      7 months ago

      I dont think they're google street view my home.

    • captcha [any]
      hexagon
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      7 months ago

      Is it just fear thats keeping us back? Again, I'm in a blue hole, its very likely that I might just break a seal. Here's hoping.

      • Kuori [she/her]
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        7 months ago

        pretty much. same reason i don't fly a trans flag even though i think it'd be cute.

        i am weak to fire and bullets

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          hexagon
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          7 months ago

          There's trans flags all over here. Pretty normal for a business to put one In a window.

          • usa_suxxx [they/them]
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            7 months ago

            Same experience here. Blue neighborhoods got trans flags, LGBTQIA flags, and Ukraine flags.

  • tree@lemmy.zip
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    7 months ago

    Honestly a lot of it probably has to do with young people not owning houses and a lot of renting situations banning you from displaying any kind of flag or sign, I think that's standard in a lot of leases now, Palestinian support skews super young at least in North America so not surprised that older house owning libs aren't taking a moral stand.

    https://palestineonlinestore.com/product/palestine-flags/

    https://www.paliroots.com/products/premium-palestine-flag#productTabs4

    I'm familiar with both of these sites they are definitely options if you would prefer not to buy from a mega corpo

  • flan [they/them]
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    7 months ago

    There is literally a whatsapp group of rich investors and CEOs and Israeli agents going around getting random people fired for supporting Palestine

    https://jackpoulson.substack.com/p/inside-the-pro-israel-information

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      hexagon
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      7 months ago

      Yeah but they're targeting people who matter like journalists, professors, journalists, altheletes, etc.

      You must keep an appropriate threat model if you're gonna get paranoid about surveillance. Reactionary neighbors, local police, landlords; these are people who might take your politics personally. But to billionaires and such you're just a statistic.

      • flan [they/them]
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        7 months ago

        I'm sorry that's not the case.

        As the Israel-Hamas war began to heat up in late October, Courtney Carey, a Dublin-based employee of the Israeli website building company Wix, posted the Irish words “SAOIRSE DON PHALAISTIN” -- “Freedom for Palestine” -- on her LinkedIn page.

        Within 24 hours of Carey’s LinkedIn post appearing, Alon Ozer, a Miami-based investor, took a screenshot of the post and shared it with a WhatsApp group of more than 300 like-minded investors, tech executives, activists, and at least one senior Israeli government official. Ozer took care to note that Carey worked for Wix.

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          hexagon
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          7 months ago

          Your example is someone posted free palestine on their LinkedIn page while working for an Israeli owned company.

          I'm talking about hanging a Palestinian flag on my porch in a borderline socialist neighborhood. Keep your threat models sane and don't spread paranoia. It keeps people from actually doing the good work.

  • Moss [they/them]
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    7 months ago

    I assume you live in America? Here in Ireland Palestine flags are everywhere, they were before the current war but even more so now. There's probably ten times as many Palestinian flags as there are Ukrainian flags at this point

    • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Ireland once again proving themselves to be the only good western country.

      • Moss [they/them]
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        7 months ago

        It turns out that being the blueprint for western colonisation makes a country pretty sympathetic to anti-colonial causes

        • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          Ireland is always on the right side of history because they were the first victims of the British Empire, so they decided they would take the opposite side of the British from then on, which by default puts them on the right side of history.

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      hexagon
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      7 months ago

      Like I said, I dont expect the same houses with Ukrainian flags to fly Palestinian flags. I would expect some home to fly one. There are leftist/socialists in my area who do support Palestine.

      • Maoo [none/use name]
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        7 months ago

        Ah. Well maybe they're actually losers? The socialists near me fly those flags.

  • invo_rt [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    The only one I've seen is some gigantic Chevy suburban with the entire hood and doors painted like Palestinian flags and also flying a huge one on a pole off the back. Gave them a big thumbs up while I was walking and they honked back.

  • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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    7 months ago

    Because Ukraine is a neo-nazi comprador regime defending the imperial core and Palestine is an actual embattled and colonized nation. Imperial core propaganda inverts these relationships and pretends they are the opposite. In imperial core propaganda Ukraine is an embattled and colonized nation and Palestine is a neo-nazi comprador regime.

    Also people ARE flying palestinian flags, but they are not shown on the news because that does not ally with imperial core propaganda.

    • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Good point that Zionists are trying to smear Palestine with descriptions that match the Ukrainian state exactly, and they Liberals like to pretend Ukraine is a smol bean Palestine

  • buckykat [none/use name]
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    7 months ago

    Most of the people whose hearts were bleeding for Ukraine either support Israel or think it's just too complicated, which is supporting Israel with extra steps

  • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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    7 months ago

    Incidentally, on the train ride yesterday, passing through a little part of the Norwegian countryside, I saw a lone house flying the Palestinian flag. I cracked a little smile.

  • CrimsonSage [any]
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    7 months ago

    Honestly, because I am afraid of being harassed and losing my job.

  • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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    7 months ago

    Not sure what you mean? The Venn diagram of those who support Ukraine and those who support Israel are practically a circle.

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      hexagon
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      7 months ago

      Well there were some who saw Israel as an aggressor like Russia and were really confused. But I was talking about any home. Not the ones with Ukraine flags.