Like people who like these might have a very basic taste in movies, but they are real movies made by real people. Not a collection of gifable moments smashed together by an algorithm and 35 focus groups.
Also the guy's favourite movie is American psycho, I feel like you can't be an American psycho guy and make fun of fight club guys.
All of this fighting about movies is so funny to me. "American psycho guys"? "Fight club guys?" Someone should make a bit account that has only watched the fucking air buds movies and shits on everyone else that doesn't have their refined tastes
A good bit might be a Space Jam guy who bemoans the days when movies weren't just shoving every IP you own on screen.
Riddle me this: is there any other movie which has Bugs Bunny and Morty in the same space? I thought not
Idk I've seen some videos on pornhub that indicate otherwise
"Yeah I'm a Space Buds guy. Space Buds is a cinematic masterpiece that subverts the scifi genre - instead of following aliens or spacemen, the movie follows a group of puppies - modern day Laikas."
The air bud series is great but they had to ruin it with the cash grab air buddies movies which didn't even have sports in them!
i really really love how limited media literacy has lead to fantastic works of art being maligned purely because a vocal contingent of fans miss the fucking themes
Also the guy’s favourite movie is American psycho, I feel like you can’t be an American psycho guy and make fun of fight club guys.
That reminds me of a quote from the director of American Psycho that went something like "and sometimes guys come up to me and they're like 'yeah I'm totally like Patrick Batemen' and I'm like 'so you're a giant dork, or a literal serial killer?' because Patrick Batemen is just such a gigantic loser when you look at him."
Edit: I went and read the wikipedia page, and found this horrifying bit: "On September 10, 2013, it was announced that FX and Lionsgate were developing an American Psycho television series that would serve as a sequel to the film.[61] It would be set in the present, with Patrick Bateman in his 50s, grooming an apprentice (Andrew Low) to be just like him.[62] In April 2015, it was stated the show was still in development but as of 2019 it is presumed to have been cancelled or in development hell.[63]"
I believe the point is that Patrick Batemen isn't cool or interesting at all: he's physically fit and affluent, which people mistake for being cool, but as a person he's completely vapid and obsessed with status symbols and what other people have to say about them, hence the constant cutaways to bizarre monologues about fashion, or food, or pop culture that are all completely empty of any substance when looked at beyond the most superficial level. The only original thoughts he has are ways of saying literally nothing on a topic while giving the appearance that he's made some insightful comment, and everything else is just repetition of critics or ads he's read.
And that's him as a person even before you get into the "he compulsively kills people for fun or over perceived slights," stuff.
There was a literal Patrick Bateman serial killer guy about a decade ago, Luka Magnotta.
Big CW for searching this guy though since he filmed and posted himself both killing cats and a person, and at least one documentary feature brief clips of those videos.
Yeah all of these are solid. Things can be good and entertaining without being an introspective black and white Japanese family drama or an incredibly long European art film (although I like those too).
And you're right, American Psycho guys definitely can't throw shade at Fight Club guys.
This othering of 'foreign film' is a plot to hide where hollywood rips off from.
Are there people that like American Psycho in an unironic way? Like, don't get me wrong, it's good, but in the same way Starship Troopers is good, and I've seen a lot of takes on the latter that gave me physical pain
I think some of the initial unironic sigma male posts did idolize Patric Bateman.
The spectacle is not a collection of images, it is a social relation mediated by images. Being became having. Having became appearing. Appearing became spectating. Spectating became telling other people they were looking at shit dumb. Telling other people they were looking at shit dumb became posting online about how you told other people that they were looking at shit dumb.
Is there something below this? Something even more bleakly abstracted from existence?
First, you must ask yourself if you care to know the answer, and if so, why.
Then you will come to realize that I alone watch media correctly and that mass culture peaked with Short Circuit 2.
It called out immatyre me very softly and then explained how I could do better and made me feel smart while it did it.
Great movie, just as good as Being John Malkovich.
Maybe this guy just watched American Psycho and thought ol' Patty Bates was just a cool guy with good taste. He pointed at the screen like Leonardo DeCaprio and said "hey! I like to identify myself through consumption too!"
I honestly do not get people who identify with Patrick Bateman. Like I know the cliche is that it's never subtle that the protagonist isn't meant to be idolized in movies like it, but here they make it painfully clear that he's a completely empty vessel and the only interesting thing about him is that maybe he's a psychotic serial killer (or he imagines to be one).
Honestly, I think it's that he does stuff. In the second half of the move, he's indulging his id, he's got his blood pumping doing murders and sex and sex and murders. And who hasn't imagined putting a fire axe through their coworker's head now and again? These people don't notice that everyone calls Petro Bootman the wrong name, or that his interests are a complete parody of American consumption. He has money! sex! he does violence!
You noticed the Fight Club thumbnail. Or maybe that "Her" is a bit of an odd one out.
I noticed that the u in "sucks" has been modified to circumvent the filters.
This is the difference between us.
I wonder how hardcore comic fans who aren't massive chuds (I know this is a unicorn) feel about the MCU?
A friend is a big comics fan and lefty. They basically just enjoy the films on a surface level, but wish the politics and writing were better. They're still entertained by them though.
They're fun to turn your brain off and consume them. But I just find them so bland and similar to each other that I often can't tell you what the movie I just saw was even about.
Consumption isnt politics unless you literally have no conscious politics of your own and just regurgitate what you watch, leftists should be less anxious about if what they watch or play is in line with Das Kapital.
I've been on a car trip with leftists who literally only listened to orchestral socialist anthems or "socialist with an acoustic guitar does a callout post about some industrialist in the 80s" type music, it blows.
I’ve been on a car trip with leftists who literally only listened to orchestral socialist anthems or “socialist with an acoustic guitar does a callout post about some industrialist in the 80s” type music, it blows.
I don't only listen to those, I also listen to the Big Bad Beetleborgs theme, so I've got my bases pretty well covered :comfy-cool:
My gf likes them. I watched all the tv show pilots with her and Loki was the only one I could enjoy. I think Tom Hiddleston just delivers that kind of dialogue in a way that isn't as aggravating as a lot of other MCU stars.
I used to be really into the comics as a kid. The films used to annoy me because I wanted a somewhat linear story. Each film (spider-man in this instance) kind of goes all over the place with plot points in the wider story. Now I just treat them as glorified fanfiction.
So they don't follow the comic stories all that well?
In the case of Spider-Man...no. The Sam Reimi movies were all over the place and the Andrew Garfield movies just as much. Homecoming looks like it's something else entirely. I get that liberties have to be taken because the series has gone on for so long, but it doesn't look like they even attempt to follow the plot and each movie becomes a "greatest hit" feature.
3 of those movies are actually quite good and 2 are a bit overrated but still solid.
Anyone who who calls themselves a “film buff” and lists these as their faves is a liar, but someone who lists these as their faves has better taste than Marvel nerds.
Okay, I'll give it a guess.
Blue Velvet, Her and Fight club are quite good while pulp fiction and a taxi driver are overrated?
No, blue velvet, pulp fiction and Taxi Driver are good.
Reservoir Dogs and Fight Club are overrated but still good.
Her is… not bad… not great. Idk why it’d be anyone’s favorite movie. ___
I think fight club is good if you get that it's about being gay and the drug like allure of .masculinity.
If you read it like het bros read it, the yeah, it's overrated
but they are real movies made by real people
So just like Marvel movies? You not liking something doesn't mean hundreds (or thousands) of man-hours and a ton of creativity didn't go in to it.
Obviously a hyperbolic statement to emphasize that creative decisions at Marvel and Disney are often overridden by focus groups, algorithms, and the whims of various suits. I'll do better next time and be as literal and humorless as possible.
They generate the whole movie before shooting using pre-visualization.
So just like almost any movie? Every movie is storyboarded.
If all the shots are made by a computer beforehand, what did you direct?
I'm sure the directors are involved in storyboarding.
That's the dumbest thing I've heard. You know the comics they're based on aren't just action scenes and have stories already, right?
They're not the most amazing movies, but to say they aren't even movies is dumb as fuck.
Hundered or thousands of man hours I will concede but I'm calling bs on a ton of creativity
Even for stuff like costumes and effects they've transformed it into an assembly line and tried to cut costs for decades. I imagine so much of the human element has been optimized out of it. They're all obviously very talented, but I imagine constantly getting laid off and finding another studio whose selling point is that they're the lowest bidder isn't going to inspire creativity and passion.
maybe but if you've seen one special effect you've pretty much seen them all
