• Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    You WILL try complex and challenging flavors.

    You WILL eat a nutritionally balanced meal.

    You WILL appreciate the years that the chef and cooks spent honing their craft.

    You WILL enjoy it.

    This is part of what I mean when I say that Anglo countries have such shitty food culture. Too many people are content with the most basic flavors and preparations (no matter how unhealthy) because the society-wide standard is set so low. Add to that people who just see food as means to an end instead of a fundamental part of human experience to be savored.

    To me, people who don't appreciate good food are the same as people who look at Starry Sky and scoff "pfffft, that doesn't look like the sky I'm used to", or worse yet "this can't be used to advertise something, so it is of no value".

    • WithoutFurtherBelay
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      no, fuck you, and learn what a comfort food is for autistic people

      I won’t “appreciate the years the chef spent honing their craft” because I will be too busy having a sensory meltdown over how weird and slimy the food is or how the tastes are too overwhelming

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      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        no, fuck you

        First of all, don't threaten me with a good time.

        Second, I'm exaggerating to parody the WEF "You will eat the bugs" meme, not proposing a real policy where people are forced to eat different food.

        Third, when I talk about societal standards I'm talking as a broad generality. Obviously there will be reasonable exceptions to most social standards and accomodations should be made for those people. If I say "the societal standards of fitness is too low, everyone should be able to climb a flight of stairs", I'm not trying to target the elderly, or pregnant people, or people with disabilities or illnesses, etc. Nor does the existence of those people invalidate the point.

        Edit: I saw your other post on accommodating people with sensory issues. I want to say that I agree that people should be accommodated and add that a skilled chef or cook is going to be much more able to accommodate people with specific requirements compared to someone who is forced to cook to a rote recipe or is just heating up pre-prepared food.

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    "Guy's menu" is just the kid's menu but everything comes with hot sauce and a beer instead of crayons and apple juice.

    • GinAndJuche
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      1 year ago

      I think the crayons would still be a hit.

  • buh [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    In America most restaurants already have this, it’s called the menu

    • Raebxeh
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      1 year ago

      I think it’s because there’s no consensus on the Type Of Guy to get mad at. Everyone’s just flailing randomly.

    • WithoutFurtherBelay
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      1 year ago

      Multiple valid criticisms (vegans, the fact that a “dudes menu” is hilariously weird and toxically masculine, health issues with some kids food I guess) combine with ableist attitudes about food (not “branching out” is “infantile”) to create horrific chimera of shielded ableism

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      I made the image macro. I did a little googling to find a photo that would hopefully capture the essence of the text. I was getting nowhere and I was about to resign myself to using part of a kid's menu as the image but I did one more google and I found the fries and pizza. It wasn't what I planned on using but it worked surprisingly well.

      Maybe the photo is the reason the vibe is off. Pizza and fries created a weird vibe. Maybe if I had used part of a kid's menu - this post would have gotten half a dozen typical comments and that would be that.

      • RedQuestionAsker2 [he/him, she/her]
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        1 year ago

        Could be the premise for an HP Lovecraft story called "The Inscrutable Vibration" or something.

        spoiler

        It's about Chinese people

      • WithoutFurtherBelay
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        1 year ago

        if your judgement isn’t just that it’s non vegan (which is the only valid one) then fuck you and I rest my case

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      • The_Grinch [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I will eat anything (vegan) but zucchini. I grew too much zucchini once like 6 years ago and I've written it off FOREVER. (except one time I went to this vegan place where they made this thai inspired peanut noodle thing with a mountain of spiralized zucchini "noodles" and it was incredible)

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  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    The kitchen stsff will totally make fun of you and be very dissapointed in you. Also men really need to stop infantilizing themselves, having a taste for not shitty food doesn't make you gay, enjoying things thst make you think doesn't make you gay, your role model shouldn't be Al Bundy.

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        Have some slop from time to time for sure. But don't identify with the slop

    • WithoutFurtherBelay
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      1 year ago

      Oh wow, the kitchen staff will make fun of me for ordering my comfort food, that definitely makes me want to branch out and not just pissed that even supposed “comrades” becoming raging ableists the moment they sense a funny dunk

    • buh [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      I feel like most of this stuff is actually easier to cook, in which case they would be glad when someone orders from it

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        Depends on the place and the dish because prep should be done for everything and most ingredients are pretty readily on hand it often doesn't make much of a difference. If you're a place that doesn't do a lot of deep frying then a bunch of slop orders that have to go through the sole deep fryer in the kitchen can thrown things off. There are simple slop meals that are a pain and seemingly fancy shit that's deceptively easy to throw together if you're going through enough to prep components in bulk. Overall it basically breaks even and I do genuinely want people to have a solid meal and get their money's worth, it's expensive as fuck.

  • arabiclearner
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    1 year ago

    I dunno, the people who would make fun of an adult for eating something like that because it's "too childish" are the same fucking dorks who get super nerdy over Harry Potter, despite themselves being full-grown adults. Let people eat what they want to eat. Being snobbish about food is like the ultimate bougie thing to do.

    • LeylaLove [she/her, love/loves]
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      1 year ago

      This is something I've learned through years of doing food service. Like just let people like what they want to like. Is it really that much more work to make a sandwich without the sauce? I don't know why they don't eat the sauce. Maybe they're autistic and can't stand the texture, maybe they have allergies, maybe they're just meathead conservatives that don't want anything other than meat on the sandwich. Let people eat what they want to eat.

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  • Kuori [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    nothing should be done to accommodate the kind of man who wants this. let them starve

    • WithoutFurtherBelay
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      1 year ago

      You are on thin fucking ice and only because the “dude’s menu” is a dumb name

      • Kuori [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        okay i just saw the rest of your comments and i wanna apologize for being so cavalier. i thought we were just fucking around here but you have a valid point. sorry if my comment came across as/was ableist, it was just intended to be a swipe at people who think vegetables are woman food or gay or whatever.

  • dannoffs [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Just order what you want?

    Something like:

    You: "Hi, can I get a basket of chicken tenders and some fries, and can I get a pint of whatever your cheap draft beer is."

    Waiter: "The draft is PBR. Would you like any sauces?"

    You: "Some ranch would be great, thanks."

  • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Hot take incoming!

    The "Kids Menu" at most American restaurants is usually the portion size an adult should be eating. Or more!

    For example, that meal in the stupid picture above is the Olive Garden Kids Pizza meal. Here's the calorie breakdown:

    • Cheese Pizza (400 kcal)
    • 1% milk (100 kcal)
    • side order fries (250 kcal)

    That's 750 kcal! That's about a third of what an active adult male should be eating daily.

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      1 year ago

      dialectics of that being true and i agree with it, but also eating out is rare enough i want to go full hog and get my money's worth

      one of the problems is those kids menus are also more reasonably priced, which is why they won't sell them to adults. food should just be cheaper and the staff better compensated. this can be accomplished with a tiny strucural adjustment gui-better

    • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Bonus hot take!

      Kids caloric needs are not that different from adults. Once they're around five years old, children ought to be eating "adult-sized" meals. By which I mean, the above kids meals. Which are actually (slightly more than) adult-sized.

      Anglo food culture is so fucked up. I hate it.

      • Dolores [love/loves]
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        1 year ago

        children also ought to be eating the same foods as adults, to bring it back full circle. the whole "kids food" is made up marketing pablum that's mostly worse for kid's development biologically and psychologically. the least picky kids i ever met were the weird home-school kids that literally never got the chance to eat anything "for kids" just normal food. they were fucked up socially beyond belief tho lol

        • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          We are on the same page on every point you brought up, love. The whole system is forked up, top to bottom.

          (in both replies!)

    • 7bicycles [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I think it's inane to go "this is an adult portion" by way of calories here. This is not an adult meal, this is an indulgence. You treat yourself with those occasionally and then let them be 3 times the calories of that, it's occasional.

  • fattymungo@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I guess the concept of being an adult and having choices on the menu are lost on you. Every damn menu is a kids menu when you're paying.