i've seen this phrase used around here in a few variations and it rarely gets called out as problematic. i really don't think its ok so i thought i'd ask: does hexbear think its ok? i can understand and support the use of violence against fascists and colonizers, but genocide is really their thing. i don't see why it makes sense to use it even as a rhetorical device. why doesn't this get called out? is genocide so normalized in casual conversation that it doesn't register or what?
edit: i have all the [he/him]s on the website telling me that this is actually a very funny joke. i still don't like it or get it, but i've had my fill of arguing with y'all so thanks for the info. i can see why nobody calls this one out. it kinda fucking sucks. i'll just go ahead and block people who post this type of joke and go on my merry way.
now that everyone has had a chance to chime in, i'm just going to add some context for y'all
most of the responses i got at first were from [he/him]s which is why i said the above. nothing against any gender, just what i saw.it wasn't my intention to misgender anyone sorry if it came across that way. i really meant it as an observation of who was jumping in to reply at the start of the thread, but i didn't realize how it could be perceived in other contexts.- i'm not american. i'm technically a US citizen, but i have much more significant cultural ties to SV, MX, and separately and to a lesser extent NA indigenous community. i don't always get where western people are coming from. i like the overall tone of hexbear maybe i just don't how imaginary genocide is supposed to be cathartic. i apologize if it came across like i'm trying to tone police y'all. that's really not my jam, but y'all do seem a little pre-disposed to getting offended when your little jokes are questioned.
- i still don't like the joke, so i'm going to remove them from my feed. if y'all don't have an issue with it that's fine. i was just trying to get a feel for what y'all think. the push back was a little upsetting after the day i had yesterday, but i'm over it now. i can live with curating my own experience based on my personal taste.
- i haven't been that articulate, but i think my feelings are best summarized by this reply:
As someone that does find the joke funny, upon some reflection i have realised that it is an inapropiate joke, genocide is a horrific thing and to make light of it by making it a subject of a joke is in bad taste the same way that jokes about sexual assault are in bad taste, we rightfuly look down on redditors for the latter but allow the former
Just he/hims saying it? Thats definitely not true.
I do agree that unlimited genocide stuff is baby edgelord stuff and isnt rooted in any marxist thought. I dont take it seriously though and i generally assume the people who are saying it seriously are the whitest people on the planet or theyre from like iraq where youre like "well yeah"
Also in general, like most of our "memes", its not funny. Meme should have a short shelf life
But getting mad and blocking people over it is kind of fragile and reeks always vote blue
i'll admit that i got a little mad, but i don't think blocking is a big deal. i block and unblock on a whim to make my experience on websites more enjoyable.
Yeah same but you shouldnt be blocking most people here
so far only one person in this thread has earned a block. i'm not trying to block lots of people, but i am going to curate my experience.
Sure
Yeah that's really bs. But for example, look at Haiti. When the slaves rose up, they killed pretty much all the whites. It's been called genocide. Doesn't mean it was bad. Saying kill whitey, unlimited genocide on the first world, etc basically translates to "there needs to be a revolution against white people and the inherently racist west" as well as mocking fascists who believe that white genocide is happening and great replacement theory.
The "west" isn't inherently racist, what is this form of pseudo-phrenology? Like as a joke, sure. Pointing out
pursues racist policy due to capitalist and supremacist brainworms? Also sure.
Actually believing that there is some sort of built-in disposition towards racism amongst citizens living in the west? Reactionary drivel
Hear me out - bostonians tho.
i think all the commenter meant was that the idea of the 'west' and white identity in general is founded on racism by racists using racist ideologies and its culture is a racist culture whose media and traditions promote and create and perform racism more than many other cultures. its not a 'built in' disposition in terms of biology, but of history and culture, society and propaganda.
Genocide is always bad, this isn't difficult. Also, the Haitians didn't commit a genocide.
And to the extent Haitian revolutionaries killed (for instance) white children just because they were white, it's not hard to say that's bad. No revolutionary or socialist project did everything perfectly right all the time. It's similarly not hard to say you support the project overall even if it did some bad things worth criticism.
The Haitian revolutionaries, even under Dessalines, did not literally kill all the whites on the island. Instead the real reason there were no more whites in Haiti after Dessalines is because Dessalines made everyone legally black, this included some of the Polish immigrants who fought on his side. This is hilarious to me because of how reactionary Poland is today, vs. back then the Polish in Haiti were so based Dessalines made them legally black.
Let’s keep that one under wraps for now. I don’t want every polish chud on the internet to start saying the n-word cause they’re black. Or saying it more, anyway
And haiti was based for doing so
Revolution=/= genocide, and calling leftist revolution (or any positive social change) genocide is litterally what the "white genocide" narrative is designed to do.
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