There's a character called Peacemaker and hes Captain America but evil cause America does mostly bad shit.

However the movie is basically set in Cuba and the heroes free it at the end. It does a lot to try to muddy the waters and not make it seem to much like a real country, but the "Viva Fictional Country" chants at the end and line about now being a free and democratic country have to be courtesy of the CIA.

It's some incredibly politically confused shit. Kind of a good movie I guess, probably the best DCEU film and much better than his Guardians of the Galaxy movies. Didn't feel as focus tested. Its also basically a remake of the first one but with actual pacing.

  • Pezevenk [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Wtf there was already a Suicide Squad movie, now there is a new one called The Suicide Squad? Fuck off.

  • blobjim [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    much better than his Guardians of the Galaxy movies

    wtf is wrong with you :disgost: :comrade-raccoon:

  • Noven [any]
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    3 years ago

    There's some very overt 'America bad' moments in between the lib stuff. Press ganging a prisoner by threatening to kill their kid or the entire scene of two mercenaries murdering innocent Cubans Corto Maltese in the jungle, all because a country turned anti-America

  • LibsEatPoop [any]
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    3 years ago

    Good movie. Most enjoyable of all the DC ones, so far. Much better music choices this time around, nice pacing (kinda long tho), nice characters, nice deaths, just a good, well-made movie.

    The political messaging is a bit convoluted. It's not "America Good" or "America Bad" but more like "America Bad Sometimes But America Can Be Good". So, the best you can hope for from capeshit. Light-years ahead of what the MCU does, obviously.

    The ending is very lib. There's also a post-credit scene so stick around for that.

    • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      somehow I feel like thats just as bad, maybe worse, but afaik Marvel does the same stuff. Throw in some "America bad sometimes" and it makes people think its not propaganda, which only makes it better propaganda.

  • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Had a bad feeling it was going to be set in either Cuba or Venezuela from the first trailer I saw. Hate to see it folks.

  • jabrd [he/him]
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    I'm only 30 minutes in but so far it seems like they're really driving home that American intervention only results in mass death and comically evil fuck ups. But yea the govt they're there to topple seems like an obvious stand in for Cuba. Especially liked that Waller mentioned the US being cool with the previous dictators of the island dEsPiTe ThEir aUthOrItArIaN MeThOdS and are now only getting involved because the new dude in charge explicitly questions US global hegemony

    Edit: lol holy fuck they made el presidente a gigachad who's going to try to sleep with Harley, the assassin sent to kill him. Where have I heard of that before lol :fidel-cool: Also I just noticed that their flag looks almost identical to Venezuela's, cool

    Bro holy fuck how could anyone think this movie is anything but anti-American? Spoiler alert: the big evil experiment they're there for was set up by the US in not!Cuba via collaboration with the previous dictatorship and is housed in a base built by Nazis fleeing the fall of the third reich. The politics surrounding the not!Castro character are shit because hollywood libs think of the Cuban communist party as equivalent to a military junta, but the rest of the film is again and again about the evils of US intervention and our complicity in creating the evils of the world. I guess I have another 40 minutes to go so maybe they'll turn it around and shit all over the message in the end but I'm floored that anyone could watch this and think the US is the good guys. I mean shit peacemaker puts it in bold print that the US is willing to kill civilians, kill women and children, torture, maim, rape, commit Nazi style human experiments to protect its own interests

  • RowPin [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    There’s a character called Peacemaker and hes Captain America but evil cause America does mostly bad shit.

    Most importantly, he is John Cena. 🎺🎺🎺

  • MsUltraViolet [she/her]
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    Idk what the hell you're all on about, if you actually watch the movie ALL THE WAY THROUGH (unlike some of your babies who literally turned it off 10 minutes in because a communist didn't appear on screen and make a speech about how America's evil) it's pretty explicitly anti-American. It cites our fucked up imperialism via how we're doing horrible shit at a military base in another country, Peacemaker is like explicitly shown to be a fucked up psycho trying to protect American hegemony by the end, Waller, who's the embodiment of coercing these inmates to do terrible black-ops shit, is shown to be a imperialist freak and gets clocked with a golf club, so that the heroes can save civilians. And the Island generals controlling the place seem much closer to right wing Pinochet types than any sort of left-wing allusion.

    You're all literally making up shit to be made at in a stupid entertaining superhero movie, that, despite it being a big budget mainstream product, still had some small amounts of American critique. Like, the American government, the ones forcing these people do to the mission or they blow their fucking heads up, are shown to be run by a psycho trying to stop the release of info that American's tortured hundreds of people in a former Nazi laboratory on right wing controlled island.

    • jabrd [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I loved Peacemaker. Was a hilarious lampooning of American evil abroad. My favorite moment was during the Harley rescue scene when they’re preparing to infiltrate the building and he says he has a shot on someone so they can sneak by but then it cuts to who he’s aiming at and it’s a female civilian office worker that he obviously doesn’t need to shoot. Love that he just doesn’t mention that and is ready to just go for it