• doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    You could just point to capitalism but no, everything bad is caused by da joos who aren't even motivated by any material reasons but by their jealousy of hwite christian men and their square jaws or something

    Nazis are cringe

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        “israel is a settler colonial project cynically backed by capitalists in the USA and UK. You are letting the tail wag the dog”

        I think laying the blame for Israel primarily at the feet of capitalists really understates the ethno-nationalist and theocratic aspects of the Zionist colonial project.

    • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      While Stargate is basically just "JOIN THE AIRFORCE" in the form of TV episodes, it's still the best mainstream sci-fi in the sense that the solution to the latest evil big bad alien is "just shoot the fucker with military grade weaponry." Fuck you Doctor Who, carry a 1911 and maybe your latest favorite pet human won't get turned into a time zombie or whatever.

      Edit: Case in point.

        • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          The show is very lib, the lesson is the military and America are inherently good, their only problem is not embracing internationalism enough (ofc internationalism being limited to other first world countries) and not listening to the scientists enough. It's Star Trek for the GenX people who would eventually become #resistance dorks.

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I only ever watched Atlantis and that one was less garbage at least for the first season of so.

            They cut off the crew from home immediately and the role of the gate switches from a link back to the military industrial complex, to a bridge to others who in turn help the stranded scientists.

            The whole show is about kinda collecting all the misfits in the region and resisting the big baddie. When the link back home is finally re-established, the more revolutionary form that the expedition took becomes incompatible with the old style of imperial rule and there's a power struggle that ensues.

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Always have been, Nazis were into weird occult shit, KKK were like medieval fantasy LARPers with added racism, so of course now with the trajectory that (that passes for) American culture has taken we have this. Corrupting and distorting popular media isn't far off from the way that the Nazis cobbled together their own mythic past.

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    what the fuuuuuck is that bottom tweet even? like i know it's some antisemitic shit from the ((())) but like whaaaaaat? :jesse-wtf:

  • comi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Isn’t that movie about owls, the fuck?

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Stargate? The movie is about Space Egyptians, the show goes off in a lot of weird directions but IIRC the Goa'uld are alien parasites that take over and mind control their hosts.

    • cybernetsoc [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Well, I haven't rewatched since childhood, but it is Star Trek with American Exceptionalism and Capitalist Realism baked in. My vague memory is that in addition to all the main characters being US military, the US, using the Stargate, decided unilaterally that they are the sole representatives and guardians of Earth. This position is why we had to make up the MIC need for massive military budgets, to justify the massive expenditures needed to fight intergalactic war. Also, the US only informed Britain, France, and Israel, as the good reliable nations, that it is unilaterally handling all humanity's affairs. And, the Soviet Union had a Stargate, but just massively fucked up everything because it is Socialist and Authoritarian, and gave up because of that. So in short, Stargate is the Star Trek of American Liberals.

      • HarryLime [any]
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        3 years ago

        I think there was an arc where Russia has a stargate and they use it irresponsibly or something

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          There's a good line in the episode with all the ambassadors of a Russian officer telling the Chinese ambassador how sweet of a deal it is that the Americans have to shoulder all the costs and risks of running the Stargate but then are obligated by treaty to share all technology with Russia.

          Given the Russian situation in the 90s, that seemed pretty realistic and funny to me.

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Oh good, now they're ruining Stargate.

    It's also funny to adopt Stargate as a far right dog whistle, the show was the embodiment of 90s liberal internationalism. At least in the tail end and with the spinoffs.

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Looking at historical examples like the creation of Liberia and Hitler's initial plan to deport German Jews to Madagascar, there's a strong theme of racists trying to ethnically cleanse minorities under the auspices of "humanitarian" interests.

        • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          The Japan-Germany Axis coordination was pretty incompetent and uncoordinated, good for us because there are many possible WW2 scenarios where Japan is more competent than just suiciding into the US navy in 3 years e.g a coordinated attack on the USSR that never happened that lead to many salty tears between them.

            • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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              3 years ago

              oh Hitler's reason for that had nothing to do with helping Japan it was this beautiful piece of "philosophy":

              "A great power does not wait for war to be declared on it, a great power declares war"

              and that's basically all that informed Hitler's decision to declare war on the largest economic power in the world lol

              • Vncredleader
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                3 years ago

                Still not over the whole Weltpolitik I see

            • Vncredleader
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              3 years ago

              The US was defacto in a naval war with Germany for a few months by then, it was a matter of time before it became a shooting war so Germany more just made it official in a way that gained them a secured ally

  • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    They are so close it is madening. You sit down any number of oligarch and capitalists and whoever else infront of these people and they don't see it. They make up some fake group of people. But their analysid is good. They are so close to getting it right and then they just zip off into space

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I rewatched it recently expecting it to be horrible but it was less bad than I thought (not good politically, but not complete propaganda).

    It helps that in the later seasons/series the Russians and Chinese get their own starships and both are portrayed as being more reasonable (a lot of the time) than elements of the US govt.

    But yeah, with shit like infiltrators that look human and an analogy for the Deep State, I can see why chuds are drawn to it.