I keep coming back to this question tho; suppose we locked down again, what would we be locking down for?
At the beginning of the pandemic we locked down to hopefully starve the virus of fuel (people to spread to) and thus end the pandemic. The US quickly failed at this. Then the purpose of the lockdown was to slow the spread to save lives while we waited on the vaccine. Now we have the vaccine.
Say we locked down again. What for? To slow the spread for what? A better vaccine perhaps, I haven't heard anyone say anything like that. To just slow the spread? Ok so we flatten the curve or whatever again and we start to reopen. We'll just be in the same place we are now a few months after that! I guess we should be slowing the spread while we wait for approval for the vaccine to be used in kids, that's makes alot of sense but again I haven't heard anyone say this.
It's so horrifying because the US is completely unwilling to take anyway out of this pandemic that doesn't involve needlessly killing hundreds of thousands more people.
In general, a slower spread is better than a faster spread because hospital resources are limited. That's the big thing. It needs to be slowed as much as possible.
There's not necessarily an end to this, which is of course politically unsustainable. Prepare for discourse nitpicking about what constitutes a mass grave
Prepare for discourse nitpicking about what constitutes a mass grave
Having already been involved in that discourse in regards to the mass child graves being found at Canadian residential schools, let me just tell you all now- it's more horrifying than you would imagine
True I wasn't considering hospital resources. Even if we never actually stop the virus, slowing the spread would save lives for that reason alone I suppose.
But yeah I agree there is no end to this. Best case scenario seems to be that getting a covid booster becomes just like getting a flu shot each year but we'll probably be looking at thousands of covid deaths every year for a long time
Yeah I agree, that's what the US should have done at the beginning. We know it works because it worked in Australia, new Zealand, Vietnam, and china.
But from what I understand the delta variant is spreading at rates much higher than 2 people, it's more like 8 people per person infected. We'd have to have basically perpetual restrictions or mini lockdowns indefinitely.
Yeah good point. I think we've reaching peak vaccine tho, nobody who wants it doesn't have it yet, except kids because it hasn't been approved yet I guess.
This is horrifying
I keep coming back to this question tho; suppose we locked down again, what would we be locking down for?
At the beginning of the pandemic we locked down to hopefully starve the virus of fuel (people to spread to) and thus end the pandemic. The US quickly failed at this. Then the purpose of the lockdown was to slow the spread to save lives while we waited on the vaccine. Now we have the vaccine.
Say we locked down again. What for? To slow the spread for what? A better vaccine perhaps, I haven't heard anyone say anything like that. To just slow the spread? Ok so we flatten the curve or whatever again and we start to reopen. We'll just be in the same place we are now a few months after that! I guess we should be slowing the spread while we wait for approval for the vaccine to be used in kids, that's makes alot of sense but again I haven't heard anyone say this.
It's so horrifying because the US is completely unwilling to take anyway out of this pandemic that doesn't involve needlessly killing hundreds of thousands more people.
In general, a slower spread is better than a faster spread because hospital resources are limited. That's the big thing. It needs to be slowed as much as possible.
There's not necessarily an end to this, which is of course politically unsustainable. Prepare for discourse nitpicking about what constitutes a mass grave
Having already been involved in that discourse in regards to the mass child graves being found at Canadian residential schools, let me just tell you all now- it's more horrifying than you would imagine
True I wasn't considering hospital resources. Even if we never actually stop the virus, slowing the spread would save lives for that reason alone I suppose.
But yeah I agree there is no end to this. Best case scenario seems to be that getting a covid booster becomes just like getting a flu shot each year but we'll probably be looking at thousands of covid deaths every year for a long time
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Yeah I agree, that's what the US should have done at the beginning. We know it works because it worked in Australia, new Zealand, Vietnam, and china.
But from what I understand the delta variant is spreading at rates much higher than 2 people, it's more like 8 people per person infected. We'd have to have basically perpetual restrictions or mini lockdowns indefinitely.
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Yeah good point. I think we've reaching peak vaccine tho, nobody who wants it doesn't have it yet, except kids because it hasn't been approved yet I guess.
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