Over the past five years or so my political identity has shifted from "Radical Leftist" to "Neoliberal who hasn't told anyone in their life yet", and as I come to terms with this transition I've been finding myself dealing with surprising feelings of sadness and loss.

These feelings are surprising because from a certain perspective my life is better than it's ever been - I've been sober for years, my career is in a good place, my relationships are meaningful and supportive, I generally feel empowered to get what I want out of life and to contribute to my loved ones and friends. When I was a radical leftist my life looked a lot different than that - I was very new in sobriety, I drove for Lyft and barely made enough to cover car payments, and Donald Trump had recently been elected US President and had as such proven that the Dems were useless and full of shit and that capitalism was doomed to collapse into fascism and that this collapse was in fact happening in real time before our very eyes. I ran a Marxist reading group in my local DSA chapter and recommended Chapo to everyone I knew. I shouted "LENIN HAD SOME GOOD IDEAS" into megaphones at rallies. I had direct knowledge about who the good guys were and who the bad guys where, I knew where to march and who to vote for, I knew what to post. I had clarity. If I didn't know how to answer a challenge or counterargument I had faith that somewhere somehow someone would be able to back me up. All right-thinking and right-feeling people agreed with me, since I was tuned into the capital-T Truth, so all I really had to do was state the capital-T Truth (over and over again) and in doing so wake people up to the reality of what is so and what bold revolutionary actions must urgently be done.

I don't think or feel that way anymore. I learned how to write code and got involved with a small web-app development company and couldn't apply any of my Marxist categories to my lived experience. My friends had saved up enough programmer salary to start their own business and I couldn't figure out if they were economic good guys or bad guys, and nobody at DSA had satisfying answers either. As part of my recovery I took direct responsibility for getting my life together, and it worked - I got myself out of self-induced poverty without my upward mobility requiring the upward mobility of any social category I supposedly belonged to. I marched, and I met people who were obviously there less for the justice of a cause and more so because they wanted an outlet for righteous violence. I experienced friction and frustration with leftist groups that were way more concerned with infighting than with having any discernible impact beyond the boundaries of the org. I read political books written by non-socialists and found that I could not dismiss their intelligence and humanity as easily as I thought I could. I found out that my family had a lot more money than I'd believed growing up, even though they're artists and never made a huge income - they'd just stashed money away in index funds for a long time, no matter what else was going on in their lives, and that the financial moves they'd made were not some kind of expensive hidden knowledge but were actually widely available possibilities. I found myself at a point in my life where all the guillotine memes I'd posted were direct threats against my loved ones and family and even myself.

The lives of my old comrades haven't changed very much. People post the same catastrophe-declaring memes, starting with stuff like "friendly reminder that - " or "it's almost as if - " and then making some extreme and questionable claim. Many have removed me from their social media channels without telling me. I feel increasingly and strangely isolated as my life improves - the stuff that works for me, like cultivating gratitude and optimism, seems to be met not only with rejection but with outright hostility and contempt. So many people I used to connect with feel that the world is the worst it's ever been and that it's only getting worse, that happiness and a good life are impossible in the heart of a rotting empire.

So with my post-radical growth and change has come the loss of clarity, community, and political self expression, and I experience a lot of mourning for that loss. The change has also come with a lot of guilt, since the radical drives have retreated without fully going away, becoming a voice in my head haunting my moments of peace and joy and telling me that I've forsaken the truth and have deliberately become part of the problem, which is even more reprehensible than never knowing the truth at all. Sometimes I can't tell if I've grown up or if I've just lived long enough to see myself become the villain.

I'm posting this here because I've been looking for a new political project and political community, or at least a space where I could express this stuff with a lower risk of a bunch of people reacting angrily to me. If you've lived through similar experiences or feelings I'd love to hear about them. If this is the wrong forum or format to post this then that's ok too- writing this all out was cathartic and meaningful in its own right, and I appreciate you reading it :)

https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/peku9c/postradical_sorrow/

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    "I led a Marxist reading group and yet make like 20 fundamental theory errors in this post"

    Yeah this is sus.

  • SuperNovaCouchGuy [any]
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    3 years ago

    Lmao this is like some 10/10 neolib copypasta propaganda material. A fake story that reads like one of those motivational videos, full of the best memes such as:

    • "Muh lenin bad"
    • Marxist theory doesnt work irl because rich ppl are hooman and muh complexity
    • Poverty is self imposed because we live in a lyft driver to software engineer meritocracy
    • "learn 2 code"
    • leftists are just irrational and angry because muh envy
    • neoliberals are the real victims here because muh social isolation
    • investing will get you rich no matter how poor you are
    • playing with the deep rightist sense of guilt
    • taking advantage of reddit sneed alienation

    I can guarantee that this was written by a loser tier thinktank to make all those pathetic narcissist ghouls feel better about themselves.

    :bait:

      • SuperNovaCouchGuy [any]
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        3 years ago

        I stole and mangled this theory from Matt's cushvlogs and the CTH podcast. Basically all manifestations of the american middle-class right, whether they be liberals, conservatives, libertarians, etc. have had to grapple with the fundamental fact that their worldviews do not logically explain why they have so much wealth and privilege compared to those less fortunate in their country or abroad. This manifests as a sort of guilt, whether consciously or subconsciously, because everything they have is "unearned" so to speak.

        Conservative-leaning types deal with it by asserting the psychotic "might is right" doctrine. They assert they are entitled to live comfortably now because they and their ancestors fought for it and won due to the virtue of might, having characteristics such as strength, intelligence and cunning. This of course, is a cope, and american conservatives are some of the dumbest and weakest little bitches when compared to people in third world countries, by their own standards.

        On the other hand, the liberal/neoliberal will instead embrace this guilt in the form of narcissistic self-flagellation (see the "white fragility" book). Furthermore, libs instead assert that they have indeed earned their positions of power due to being virtuous in vapid ways such as having more empathy, listening skills, moral superiority, and kindness. Cope again, because this is a facade hiding the fact that they fundamentally believe the same things as the conservative (see their opinions on "foregin policy").

        The think tank essay is an example of the latter kind, because the lanyard writer's character is shown to experience "guilt" and "remorse" upon the "realization" based on their "radical drives" (cringe) that they are "part of the problem". Note the acknowledgement of an internal struggle between their material comfort and the feelings of unearned privilege, or perhaps knowing that this comfort comes at the direct expense of others less fortunate. This is meant to be relatable for the cloying simps for capital which infest reddit, they will all pontificate and circlejerk about how they all might feel guilty from time to time but in the end ultimately affirm how they are ubermenscen deserving of everything they have. Yet in reality they are pitiful mewling creatures lower than pond scum because at least pond scum contributes to the ecosystem of earth.

        Edited for grammar.

        • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          That sounds about right but I wouldn't describe liberals believing that they earned their wealth and privilege from virtuous behavior as self-flagellation.

        • Hewaoijsdb [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Thanks for the explanation, I also heard this from the cushvlogs, but didn't quite understand it till now.

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Lmao, excelent bit

    "I was no longer poor so I stopped caring"

    The "actually, I was never poor at all, just like the Ugly Duckling" part is :chefs-kiss:

  • fuckwit [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    this is what happens when you don’t actually suffer from oppression and your only barrier to upward mobility is the ‘stop being poor’ switch that you can turn on because the neoliberal system is actually catered to you.

  • LoudMuffin [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I'm doing the thing no one does (not even right wingers who generally are incredibly literate and well read) and reading Capital and I don't really understand how getting better living conditions would make you a neoliberal unless you weren't ideologically committed to begin with.

    A lot of my problems with capitalism are out of economic self interest, but amelioriating my own personal financial deficits isn't going to brush away the myriad of social, ecological, economic, and political issues involved with the capitalist mode of production.

    I'm literally doing the learn to code meme and if all goes well I'll be earning more than most people but I do not exist in a bubble, if the guys working retail aren't making enough to even reproduce themselves this is going to cause ripples and introduce the potential for me to lose my own station. I want to do away with the precarity that leads to people shooting up on the streets and pissing in their own fucking mouths and fucking in public and shitting all over the train platforms and I don't want people stealing the shit I worked hard to pay for because they don't have enough to put food on the table. I don't want the ecosystem to collapse because we shovel over 9000 tons of plastic and silicon shit into landfills every quarter because "muh profit". I don't want my dick to stop fucking working because some asshole decided we needed to sell rebottled tap water in the trillions everyday. I don't want some bald little douchebag to hoover up all the resources on the planet for some stupid ass vanity project.

    I don't like capitalism because I don't make enough to buy Funkopops, I don't like it because at it's full realization it effectively becomes a death cult.

    Fucking Allende was a rich doctor and politician and that homie still took a bullet for the flaites.

    You don't have to be broke to be a real one (see Engels)

  • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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    3 years ago

    My friends had saved up enough programmer salary to start their own business and I couldn’t figure out if they were economic good guys or bad guys,

    what some who's never had a conscious thought says

    • MasterShakeVoice [undecided]
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      3 years ago

      One of the arrneolib mods who co-wrote this during office hours in a google doc tried to come up with a non-exploitative business and this is what they came up with

    • MasterShakeVoice [undecided]
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      3 years ago

      I may be getting the time frame wrong, but 5 years ago some really disgusting "marketing firms" were buying up well established reddit and twitter accounts for actual money.

    • bigboopballs [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      It's basically what some "Hitler did nothing wrong" 4chan shit-bag thinks a leftist would say in their "horseshoe theory" brain

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Not even Lenin did nothing wrong lmao. Just he had some good ideas. Motherfucker everyone has some good ideas. I'm sure <insert random fascist here> woke up in the morning at least twice in their life and decided to get something good for breakfast. There, two good ideas.

  • CrimsonSage [any]
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    3 years ago

    Clearly they didn't understand much of what they read, assuming this isn't all crap; kina feel like the 'I learned to code' is a tell.

  • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    DAE think that if i personally achieve some small measure of financial security under capitalism it proves Marx was a dum dum?

    Also fake as fuck

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I shouted “LENIN HAD SOME GOOD IDEAS” into megaphones at rallies.

    lol holy shit

  • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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    3 years ago

    you can tell this guy was a "radical" radlib at best because he apparently never heard of the petite bourgeoisie or material conditions before

    • MasterShakeVoice [undecided]
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      3 years ago

      Getting really into marxist reading groups and never thinking about what class I or my family are in