• Gorn [they/them,he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Fascinating. said he was sad I had to live in such a violent country huh.

    • snackage [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      What's really cool and by cool I mean horrifying is that the American War and First Indochina War are seperated by only one year. That means from Hanoi's perspective they've basically been fighting an independence war from 1946 till 1973.

      • kilternkafuffle [any]
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        4 years ago

        *1945 was when Ho Chi Minh declared independence and declared war on the occupying Japanese. Japan also occupied the country from 1940 onwards - so it was . The last year of the occupation was especially brutal, as the Japanese militarists knew they were losing, so they forced the Vietnamese to plant mainly cash crops to sell abroad, leaving the population starving - 0.6-2 million died, which approaches Vietnamese casualties from the war with the US. (The future dictator of the US client state of South Vietnam, Ngô Đình Diệm, had naturally collaborated with the Japanese during the occupation.)

        And before that it was the French occupation - which in its last decades had really cranked up the exploitation, flooding the country with opium (which had never been big before), among other ways to extract cash.

    • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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      Solidarity with the people of Vietnam.

      There is no one on this planet I respect more than the people of Vietnam.

      I can only imagine the strenght needed to successfully take on not just one, but two colonial/imperialist powers in such a short time. I'm genuinely tearing up typing this. Holy fuck.

      I'd love to visit some day.

      • Torenico [he/him]
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        Cuba and Vietnam are countries that I will forever respect. Both endured massive pain, Vietnam was colonized by the French and occupied by the Japanese, they fought both to gain freedom, the US came in with immense firepower, they wanted to burn every single bit of Vietnamese land... yet they won, they suffered an enormous amount of dead because of the nature of the war, these guys were literally farmers without much experience in war, they gathered what they could and gave the US and it's allies a hell of a time.

        Cuba was, and still is, pretty much isolated from the rest of the world. A tiny island mere kilometers away from the Empire Mainland, they could have been wiped out of the map but they stood on. They're an example to all of us South Americans, they said NO to the US and up to this day they're still keeping their promise, I will forever admire Fidel and Cuba, I'm not in 100% in agreement with them but boy I'll fucking respect them till the very end.

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        I can talk with people who have issues with the SU or China (Dengist or old-school Maoist) or Tito, as much as I disagree with them.

        But if you aren't stanning Vietnam or Cuba you need to have a long hard look at yourself, because these guys are utter chads.

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          right? like, im queer and trans, and I've heard cuba does have a bit of typical latin american problems on that (less than most), but other than that? the numbers just make it look flat out better than the rest of the world.

          I've heard vietnam is a bit authoritarian, but the government is actually for the people. which is a totally alien idea to me and I'm not totally sure I believe it, because i have trouble understanding it. but they killed a whole lot of americans so even if they're shit, they have my respect.

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      4 years ago

      should've asked. or did you not have money to cover the night's bar tab for both of you?

  • LangdonAlger [any]
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    4 years ago

    There's some real inspirational energy behind taking a dud bomb dropped on your homeland and successfully repurposing it to defend your homeland from the people who dropped it

  • MorelaakIsBack [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    jfc the look on the dudes face in the last panel is haunting

    yeah, fuck America but more importantly War Is Hell