https://twitter.com/NakedSavior/status/1435220531922579457

Update I found the OP https://twitter.com/SnazzyQ/status/1434936396096028674

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Most environmentally friendly way to purchase a car is to buy a second hand car with good fuel mileage, reliability and safety, and drive it for as long as possible until it falls apart basically. But that's not cool and fancy, so let's buy brand new Teslas everybody!

    • DickFuckarelli [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Even if you don't give a fuck about cooking the planet, it's also unshockingly the most cost efficient way to drive a car, as well.

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            I mean newer cars do tend to be safer, but you can find recent used cars (like built in the last 10-15 years) with 5 star euro NCAP safety ratings. Just need to do your research

            • andys_nuts [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              Pretty much every major manufacturer has a "pre-owned" certification they'll attach to used cars that are in good condition and have low mileage. I think a lot of them are cars that people lease when brand new, but then return after 1-2 years. Knocks the price down and you get assurance that you aren't buying a lemon, something that's been through an accident and has rags for airbags, etc.

              Not as cheap or environmentally friendly as getting a 2010 Corolla or something, but easily better than buying new if the concern is safety.

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Just look for something with side airbags. Check the seats for SRS tags and the A pillar and under the steering wheel.

              If it's got bags in all those places it's a perfectly safe car for most accidents.

    • Mindfury [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Toyota avalon with LPG conversion yeehaw

      Literally took it as a hand-me-down from dad and drove it to 400,000km before i fucking totalled it when someone cut me off

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          It's kinda wild how as time progresses, you see less and less mid-late 2000s cars selling on the used markets and tons of 90s and 00s cars still.

          I guess a lot of people could just be driving their later model cars into the ground, but it honestly feels like the ones right before everything was hyper technologied up are sticking around forever.

    • cokedupchavez [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      hahahah i fucking knew that some dipshit would twist a post like this to an opportunity to spread misinformation promoting ICEs

      https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-how-electric-vehicles-help-to-tackle-climate-change

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Please tell me in what world is buying a brand new Tesla more environmentally friendly than buying a second hand car. Of course electric engines are much, much more efficient and environmentally friendly than ICEs, I never claimed otherwise, but that doesn't account for the rest of the car, and the resources needed to build it. Nevermind no one can afford a Tesla anyway.

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            Also the whole point is though that when you buy a second hand car, a new car is not being manufactured, so it eliminates that blue manufacturing bar at the bottom of the graph from the equation. And how many Tesla owners will actually drive their car for 150 000km/94 000 miles before buying a new car, which is the measurement the study is using to measure lifetime emissions? Not much, these people get a new car every two years like it's a smartphone or something.

              • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                There are plenty of post 2003 vehicles with no surveillance and repairability issues. My 2014 Mitsubishi is basically a monkey wrechable shitbox with a hacked together Bluetooth headunit.

                I decompiled the firmware for it and it's literally so poorly coded and designed that I'd be amazed if they managed to get anything out of it lol. It literally ships with emacs installed because whoever built it never pulled that package from the final build lmao

            • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              The dude in the tweet literally talks about his "other Tesla". They buy the newest model whenever it comes out.

              • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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                3 years ago

                Same here, but do you really think your average Tesla owner is going to hold onto a car for that long. Especially when Tesla releases a new model? These people are like cultists for Elon Musk and Tesla

          • cokedupchavez [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            above is incorrect on two accounts, and this comment identical to fossil lobby talking points. i expect much greater diligence in consumer-centered carbon politics from this site.

            • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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              3 years ago

              Again, your article is measuring the emissions over the course of 150 000km/94 000 miles. How many Tesla owners, do you think, are going to drive their cars for that long before buying a new one? I can tell you now it's not many. And the whole point in the argument of buying a second hand car is that there is not a need for a new car to be manufactured. The whole point is that your average Tesla owner (not EVs in general, Tesla) is not really doing much here.

      • andys_nuts [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        :cringe:

        Interesting article, but what a trash way to talk to a comrade. You're not on reddit.