President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday that Russia would be prepared to talk to Ukraine, the United States and Europe about the future of Ukraine if they wanted to, but that Moscow would defend its…
The previous government had running infrastructure, hospitals, electricity, clean water, etc. before the American regime bombed them and plunged the region into chaos so as to install puppet governments that allowed the U.S regime to pillage their resources and inflate the stock portfolios of the war criminals that run the American regime.
Zero justification for supporting the actions of the American terrorist regime.
Who was Saddam's top allies during the Anfal campaign? Who gave him the gas? Like all neocon propagandists you're completely full of shit and yet you have the fuckin gall to open your filthy mouth and talk about genocidal dictator this and that after what the US did to Iraq, go fuck yourself shitlib
Right, Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden's bullets, bombs, and depleted uranium thatve killed and displaced millions of Iraqi citizens are obviously much better.
Isn't worshipping the lesser of two evils you liberal demons whole political ideology?
So you think the guy who killed millions is better than the guy who killed thousands? You think the guy who killed millions is the lesser of two evils?
Why might that be? Does it have something to do with the people killed?
You're really conflating seething hatred for America destroying a country with praise for Saddam Hussein? You reactionaries really can't see in anything beyond binary terms, can you?
Saddam was fucking atrocious, but Iraq had working infrastructure under him (and his rise to power was aided by the US, so he was another pawn)
They had that torn apart courtesy of America and are only just building back
No I got no love for what the US and the allies did to Iraq, but what good is the the running water they had for the dead Kurds? From the start, my argument was they are better off now. Not that they are in paradise now.
Better off how? I pointed out their power grid is shit, their water table is contaminated, their buildings are bombed out, and everything but their oil has been privatized. Materially, they're fucked 3 ways to Sunday.
If you're trying to still make digs about 'supporting Saddam killing Kurds' or w/e, I'll point out again that Saddam had the full backing of the US until Kuwait
And you can get rid of people like him without invading the country and tearing it asunder
The Americans did not care about the people Saddam killed, and they killed millions more Iraqis then he ever did, you're a delusional racist and a war worshiping dipshit
It's true, the number of times i heard "glass the middle east" as a child comprehensively destroyed for me the idea of america as a force for anything good, and of americans as an aggregate being anything but a swarm of stupid bloodthirsty assholes once they get activated.
I have hope for the individuals, but as a collective identity? No more American, the world does not need American.
Motherfucker is acting like all libs, like this is some marvel movie shit to them where after the US got Saddam, all the 'good guys' stood on top of a building in downtown Baghdad at night and said 'We have hope now' and then the credits rolled
The Kurds killed with chemical weapon technology supplied by the US? The killings that the US tried to frame Iran for? After which the US refused to sanction Iraq and continued to provide dual-use technology to Iraq.
Jan 6th is America's Libya moment, and China should missile strike the US airforce and establish a no-fly zone over North America to insure the U.S. regime can't kill their insurgents
They don't have functional infrastructure 20 years after the war and they did under Saddam. You really think the US was interested in anything besides cannibalizing the country for resources?
edit: Oh yeah, they were interested in one other thing: handing lucrative ”rebuilding” contracts to corporations like Halliburton with direct ties to the Bush admin.
I'm with you. It's not fair to make judgments based on the material reality of people's lives. You clearly said the word dictator, which means bad guy from an exotic locale. You won the argument. What are all these commies talking about?
Fucking libs, man. Give them the slightest push against their preconceived notions and they immediately start slinging shit instead of relating to the arguments at hand.
"Hey here's some facts about how life was measurably better before we bombed the shit out of Iraq".
"Whatever you love Saddam".
You would have supported the Iraq war. You would have supported the Vietnam war. You would have supported the Kent state shootings. You would have eagerly reported local communists during the red scare.
Please acquire some critical thinking skills you cretin
There's plenty of shitty government around the world, including a bunch the US actively supports. It doesn't give the US the right to kick the door down and subject the people there to more instability and violence to further their geopolitical goals under the guise of "humanitarianism".
The topic is foreign interventions, Syria is about as relevant to that topic as you can get. You know this, you are intentionally avoiding engaging with his question cuz you know you don't have an answer that won't come off as a massive fucking stretch.
Remember when America starved and killed the children if Iraq to the number of a hundred million at least with sanctions? Pepperidge farm remembers.
Also fun fact, Iraqis born in the 90's are significantly more likely to die of preventable causes and diseases, covid, than other people because if the permanent damage the sanctions caused to their development.
Msnbc and colbert didn't include that in their explanation of why every country in the world other than America is wrong so liberals wouldn't know about it.
He at least shits on dems for comedic effect which I realize is still useless but makes him 10x better than people pretending Kamela is effective and popular.
Is the world ready to stfu out of iraq or west bank?
The American army is allowed to be there by the Iraqi government?
Lol: "The State Department on Friday made clear that the American military will not abide by the requests of the Iraqi government to leave the country and instead will stay indefinitely."
But I was told Obama got us out of there, CNN said so!
Lol he won't respond to this
So if Russia installs a new government in Ukraine and that new government allowed the Russian army to be there, would that be ok?
The Iraqi government the U.S. installed when they invaded in the first place?
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The previous regime which we also installed
The previous government had running infrastructure, hospitals, electricity, clean water, etc. before the American regime bombed them and plunged the region into chaos so as to install puppet governments that allowed the U.S regime to pillage their resources and inflate the stock portfolios of the war criminals that run the American regime.
Zero justification for supporting the actions of the American terrorist regime.
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um nobody here is praising Joe Biden
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Who was Saddam's top allies during the Anfal campaign? Who gave him the gas? Like all neocon propagandists you're completely full of shit and yet you have the fuckin gall to open your filthy mouth and talk about genocidal dictator this and that after what the US did to Iraq, go fuck yourself shitlib
Right, Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden's bullets, bombs, and depleted uranium thatve killed and displaced millions of Iraqi citizens are obviously much better.
Isn't worshipping the lesser of two evils you liberal demons whole political ideology?
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So you think the guy who killed millions is better than the guy who killed thousands? You think the guy who killed millions is the lesser of two evils?
Why might that be? Does it have something to do with the people killed?
The American autocrats you worship did an order of magnitude more evil than Sadam ever could.
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What's your opinions on the State of Israel?
You already know lmao
Its just to prove the point that this cowardly disgusting sack of shit would never own up to it
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Now what's your opinion on the state of Ukraine. Or the USA while we're at it.
Who gave him the gas to do that dude?
You're really conflating seething hatred for America destroying a country with praise for Saddam Hussein? You reactionaries really can't see in anything beyond binary terms, can you?
Saddam was fucking atrocious, but Iraq had working infrastructure under him (and his rise to power was aided by the US, so he was another pawn)
They had that torn apart courtesy of America and are only just building back
Sorry, we're all out of empathy here in the west. Try getting better bootstraps, thirdworlders.
No I got no love for what the US and the allies did to Iraq, but what good is the the running water they had for the dead Kurds? From the start, my argument was they are better off now. Not that they are in paradise now.
Better off how? I pointed out their power grid is shit, their water table is contaminated, their buildings are bombed out, and everything but their oil has been privatized. Materially, they're fucked 3 ways to Sunday.
If you're trying to still make digs about 'supporting Saddam killing Kurds' or w/e, I'll point out again that Saddam had the full backing of the US until Kuwait
And you can get rid of people like him without invading the country and tearing it asunder
It's almost like european powers pit ethnic groups against eachother to destabilize resource-rich regions.
The Americans did not care about the people Saddam killed, and they killed millions more Iraqis then he ever did, you're a delusional racist and a war worshiping dipshit
It's true, the number of times i heard "glass the middle east" as a child comprehensively destroyed for me the idea of america as a force for anything good, and of americans as an aggregate being anything but a swarm of stupid bloodthirsty assholes once they get activated.
I have hope for the individuals, but as a collective identity? No more American, the world does not need American.
According to who?
Apparently this bozo's feelings
Motherfucker is acting like all libs, like this is some marvel movie shit to them where after the US got Saddam, all the 'good guys' stood on top of a building in downtown Baghdad at night and said 'We have hope now' and then the credits rolled
They forgot this is real life
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Yes I'm sure the Kurds situation has been improved greatly by not having running water or electricity.
By the way, who gave Saddam that gas?
The dead Kurds are better off now? Did you use a medium to survey them?
The Kurds killed with chemical weapon technology supplied by the US? The killings that the US tried to frame Iran for? After which the US refused to sanction Iraq and continued to provide dual-use technology to Iraq.
Those dead Kurds?
China should missile strike american water plants, what good is the running water americans have for the indigenous people they genocided?
Jan 6th is America's Libya moment, and China should missile strike the US airforce and establish a no-fly zone over North America to insure the U.S. regime can't kill their insurgents
Then why are you fucking defending their presence there like five minutes ago?
They don't have functional infrastructure 20 years after the war and they did under Saddam. You really think the US was interested in anything besides cannibalizing the country for resources?
edit: Oh yeah, they were interested in one other thing: handing lucrative ”rebuilding” contracts to corporations like Halliburton with direct ties to the Bush admin.
Hey quick question, what's worse: opposing the US empire, or being the US empire and giving Saddam Hussein chemical weapons to attack Iran?
What the fuck? There isn’t a single word of praise for any thing or anyone in that comment are you this fucking delusional???
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Are you simple, jack?
What your feelings on the state of Israel?
"oh shid oh fuck I wandered outside my echo chamber oh shiiiiiiiii"
I'm with you. It's not fair to make judgments based on the material reality of people's lives. You clearly said the word dictator, which means bad guy from an exotic locale. You won the argument. What are all these commies talking about?
The Iraq war and the aftermath probably killed more Iraqis than Saddam's entire reign.
Without a doubt. The war led to millions of deaths
Fucking libs, man. Give them the slightest push against their preconceived notions and they immediately start slinging shit instead of relating to the arguments at hand.
"Hey here's some facts about how life was measurably better before we bombed the shit out of Iraq".
"Whatever you love Saddam".
You would have supported the Iraq war. You would have supported the Vietnam war. You would have supported the Kent state shootings. You would have eagerly reported local communists during the red scare.
Please acquire some critical thinking skills you cretin
I remember when "Saddam lover" was something libs made fun of right wingers for throwing out willy nilly
Then Obama got elected and suddenly anyone who even asks questions about Syria is an Assad lover
Bitch, you're the one saying the genocidal slaughter and immiseration of millions of Iraqis is a good thing.
Iraq's power grid took until 2008 to return to the capacity it could generate prior to the first Gulf War over a decade and a half prior where the US needlessly destroyed their power grid, and it still can't meet demand in the summer
It has depleted uranium in it's groundwater from American munitions
It had ISIS/ISIL attack it
Millions were displaced, hundreds of thousands were killed, and it got privatized into oblivion by IMF/World bank loans with greedy contractors like Halliburton licking their chops
I'm pretty sure it is much worse then it was pre American involvement
There's plenty of shitty government around the world, including a bunch the US actively supports. It doesn't give the US the right to kick the door down and subject the people there to more instability and violence to further their geopolitical goals under the guise of "humanitarianism".
The yank has an opinion on what constitutes democracy
So if Russia installs a regime better than the current one, their invasion is ok then?
Also lol at not knowing the USA installed the Iraqi government.
Dogbrain
Is the American army allowed to be in Syria by the Syrian government too?
Is John allowed to eat Tom’s lunch?
Fun, but can we stay on topic?
The topic is foreign interventions, Syria is about as relevant to that topic as you can get. You know this, you are intentionally avoiding engaging with his question cuz you know you don't have an answer that won't come off as a massive fucking stretch.
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So illegal wars of aggression are ok?
When America does it yes.
This is what liberals actually believe.
I'm sorry you think Iraq was worse off before the US and allies came in and murdered 2million people? Are you real?
You are a genuine monster.
Remember when America starved and killed the children if Iraq to the number of a hundred million at least with sanctions? Pepperidge farm remembers.
Also fun fact, Iraqis born in the 90's are significantly more likely to die of preventable causes and diseases, covid, than other people because if the permanent damage the sanctions caused to their development.
A topic completely unrelated to foreign interventions, then?
I wonder how Saddam got into power in the first place
Damn I kinda wish I could have seen what this jackass commented before the mods took it down
You claim to want to stay on topic, but bring up people like "Tom" and "John". Curious!
(No well guy emoji? Wtf?)
Gah, I never get the keyword right.
Finding some emojis has a very "ordering off the secret menu" vibe.
And lunch
Die Reddit brained genocide fan
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China's life expectancy is higher than America's, and is still rising while ours fàlls.
Fucking lol if you think China is a bad place to live
I wish I could live in China, have you seen their infrastructure? Have you seen their cities? Have you seen what they invest in?
Idunno what you said, but I think you should fuck off for all eternity because you’re a Reddit brained loser
sure: https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/10/were-staying-us-tells-iraq-after-being-asked-leave
Which they installed?
Like compare and contrast three events:
Maidan - january 6 in usa
Syrian civil war - ukraine civil war
Invasion of ukraine - invasion of sector gaza
Do the internal logic of events is similar? Which ones gets sanctioned, and which ones gets ignored?
That is such a lie
How'd that government get in power?
oppa gangnam style
The Iraqi government literally voted to have America withdraw and was ignored
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/1/5/iraqi-parliament-calls-for-expulsion-of-foreign-troops
lol
Liberals are constantly out of date on the most basic of information if it's anything to outside of american borders. By literal years.
Msnbc and colbert didn't include that in their explanation of why every country in the world other than America is wrong so liberals wouldn't know about it.
Hey don't forget about John Oliver, where would libs be without him?
He at least shits on dems for comedic effect which I realize is still useless but makes him 10x better than people pretending Kamela is effective and popular.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/05/world/soleimani-us-iran-attack/index.html