Also screw Colorado, stop being better than America

  • deadtoddler420 [any]
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    3 years ago

    I honestly don't even know where you'd begin teaching Americans to not get fat. I mean, teaching kids about calories in schools would probably help, but it's impossible when almost every social activity Americans get involves horribly unhealthy food.

    • MarxistMaths [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Teaching calories isn't gonna stop anyone getting fat.

      You have to go to the source - and that's the food companies are allowed to sell and the marketing they're allowed to use to sell it.

      • PlantsRstillCool [des/pair]
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        3 years ago

        This. Food this made to feed people it's made to make profit. Ofcourse they provide all kinds of addictive shit

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      its not even all a teaching thing, Americans are just depressed as shit, and...

      Dieting literally, literally does not work - it so rarely works it's basically not even a thing. It sounds exactly like it would work but it doesn't, it just kicks your body into starvation mode, and your brain stem can actually just warp your cognition into eating more food. People hardly lose anything and then gain it back and often worse. Also when you're depressed you can't do a lot of work, and in America, the shit food is the only easy food.

      One time I was depressed but I didn't have a car and I had to bike 3 miles and strap groceries to my bike with my two belts I owned. Eating was such a chore, that I lost like 60 pounds and it felt like shit. I was starting to get a bit bony and old ladies were frowning at me. Now covid hit and i gained a shitload of weight in quarantine

      Doctors are starting to see gastric bypasses as just, the medicine people need for a condition, instead of giving out medical advice that does fucking nothing

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          "We found that the majority of people regained all the weight, plus more. Sustained weight loss was found only in a small minority of participants, while complete weight regain was found in the majority. Diets do not lead to sustained weight loss or health benefits for the majority of people.”

          Mann and her co-authors conducted the most comprehensive and rigorous analysis of diet studies, analyzing 31 long-term studies.

          “What happens to people on diets in the long run?” Mann asked. “Would they have been better off to not go on a diet at all? We decided to dig up and analyze every study that followed people on diets for two to five years. We concluded most of them would have been better off not going on the diet at all. Their weight would be pretty much the same, and their bodies would not suffer the wear and tear from losing weight and gaining it all back.”

          https://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Dieting-Does-Not-Work-UCLA-Researchers-7832

          https://www.healthline.com/health-news/diets-work-for-one-year

          https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/317617

          For a human body, losing weight is about as easy, physiologically but not mentally, as deliberately committing suicide from starvation. Individually obviously people get skinny from eating less shit, but it's about as likely to trigger weight gain, and doctors saying "ok go diet lol" has done more harm than good.

            • SerLava [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Yes eating less things can make you skinny. But most of the time, trying literally does nothing or makes it worse. That's what I'm posting about

              Until the US has socialized gastric bypass surgery there is absolutely zero chance of ending the extremely high rate of obesity

      • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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        3 years ago

        Dieting literally, literally does not work

        yeah it's like the doctors say right? It has to be a permanent "lifestyle change." A lot of people just want to juice/salad cleanse for a month and loose 40lbs so they can go back to the TGI Friday's all-you-can-eat butterbeef brisket without feeling bad. I get it, people like their slop, but all these diet fads surely are just pissing in the wind compared to the mountains of processed shit Americans eat and the massive marketing campaign to make them eat even more.

      • deadtoddler420 [any]
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        3 years ago

        I've dieted and lost 30 pounds, it works. The trick is that you're not training your body to eat less. You're training your body to be ok with being hungry more. Doing that requires filling your time with more productive things, which absolutely means when you have a depressive lapse you'll put some weight back on. Thats honestly more why you need excercise with it than the calories excercise burns, cause the endorphins itll produce will replace a lot of the ones eating 5000 calories a day would give you.

          • SerLava [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Yeah I didn't mention it but I read somewhere that the obese people who DO lose weight by dieting often end up with worse health stats

      • TankieDukakis [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        It's a mixture of depression and just work exhaustion for me.

        I work 7-4 babysitting teaching little shits. I get home and I'm just fucking tired. I don't want to cook because cooking = time = dishes = more time to clean = more time to get groceries = etc

        It's so much easier to stop at some shitty fast food joint. I'm trying to cook at home more but I just want to go home and do nothing you know?

        Thankfully I get enough exercise to not be severely overweight but it would save me money to cook at home

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Does dieting mean stuff like keto and Atkins, or does it mean tracking CICO?

        I only ask because ive successfully manipulated my weight with CICO, and it feels sustainable.

    • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The entire design of U.S. cities and the economy that the U.S. is based on is completely antithetical to a healthy lifestyle. "Choice" can help, but only a complete overhaul of the country can stop this trend. Not to mention the low quality food in the U.S.