i kind of disagree, those movies could've been polished with a better team and tempered lucas-ian influence, but a TV show isn't necessarily the right remedy. the prequels were clearly structured in a parallel to the OG's, and if they simply didn't suck it might've been neat. economically, movies are more straightforward too, it wouldn't be nearly as easy to put those ridiculously indulgent battles (one of the few redeeming qualities of the prequels) into a more stretched out budget with less definite returns.
If they wee gonna be films the story needs to be film trilogy length, which it clearly wasn't since the movies made no sense and Star Wars Guys are hyped to this day a mid cartoon filled the gaps. I also hate the ridiculously indulgent battles cause they're way too visually busy ruining any sense of storytelling and making it look like someone else playing a ps3 game. I will forever be a practical effects snob, I love miniatures, figuring how effects shots worked in movies and how to replicate them, the fact you often got to fuck around with explosives and all that since I was a little kid, then when I became a teenager everything became cgi and it sucks. There's no wonder to special effects, they just made a dmall town of people work really hard on computers for nothing. Either do the politcal drama well as a series or make the whole story different for movies. I have a 3 movie prequel treatment for the nerds out there from when I gave a shit that I could recall the broad strokes of. They went for the middle and missed the exhaust port cause computer screen instead of the force or whatever, allegories
the shocking thing about the prequels is how much still was practical, and how well the cgi integrated with it---there's movies that came out this year with less legit looking cgi than the phantom menace. in sharp contrast to the original series cg-editions lol.
lucas was always a huge effects-head, i think that's one of the strengths of the OT, the character writing not being as bad grounds the audience but then there's exploding planets, lazer dog-fights & lazer samurai battles. taking out the bombastic you can still make a good star war (andor), but i think something would be lost. at least in a main line capital-S Star War.
the story needs to be film trilogy length
yeah but the core of 1 person's arc, even from childhood fits fine in one film. Lucas essentially had 2 films worth of wiggle room to contextualize that one guy's story in politics, battles, and worldbuilding, but there's soooo much waste.
Have you seen the behind the scenes to the prequels? Next to nothing is practical except sometimes in episode 1. It's blue screen for days. Especially compared to other films st the time it was absolutely exorbitant with cg. Look at the prequels compared to lord of the rings. Regardless you could still.hafe battles and action, it's a full scale war story but the story of that war can't just be some but not enough events leading up for it to make sense, the inciting incident and the ending. Making the whole prequel trilogy about Darth Vader was a mistake from the start and letting the allure the character had on the real world affect the world building. In the OT he was important to Luke but to everyone else he was just like...the emperor's really scary right hand guy. He was part of a larger world
If it's gotta be a film trilogy and be less andor mire rotj, focus less on anakin, he's there and a major character but Obi Wan is the main. The first episode is obi Wan and his new apprenric Anakin doing some jedi bullshit and discover a threat! Some weird aliens thst can clone themselves and be basically an unlimited army are a-comin! The republic reacts to this crisis, gives Palpatine the emergency powers, this clone army is relentless and eventually society becomes more and more militarized and people are drafted into being storm troopers, politcal control increases etc. The clones run dry, the empire is now a thing without anyone really noticing it happened. Maybe Palpatine orchestrated the clones maybe he didn't, doesn't matter much. Anakin goes dark side somewhere over the course of this but by the end circumstances have led to the jedi being pretty dark as well during the war, he just didn't let it go. The remaining jedi wh ogot their shit back together after the war are then mostly killed by Vader. Add a compelling cast that gels as well as the OT and add their personal stories and that pretty much fills out three films.
i accidentally deleted my wip reply: tldr, War and Peace proves a big expensive setpiece-y movie series can be good, Lucas had a unique opportunity (having more money than god) to direct such a project. the fucking writing and story sucked. i don't like the 'darth vader lifestory' premise either, it just wasn't an unworkable idea
the clones being the bad guys was the 'original' premise of the Clone War in novelizations that's some deep lore you're on
i kind of disagree, those movies could've been polished with a better team and tempered lucas-ian influence, but a TV show isn't necessarily the right remedy. the prequels were clearly structured in a parallel to the OG's, and if they simply didn't suck it might've been neat. economically, movies are more straightforward too, it wouldn't be nearly as easy to put those ridiculously indulgent battles (one of the few redeeming qualities of the prequels) into a more stretched out budget with less definite returns.
If they wee gonna be films the story needs to be film trilogy length, which it clearly wasn't since the movies made no sense and Star Wars Guys are hyped to this day a mid cartoon filled the gaps. I also hate the ridiculously indulgent battles cause they're way too visually busy ruining any sense of storytelling and making it look like someone else playing a ps3 game. I will forever be a practical effects snob, I love miniatures, figuring how effects shots worked in movies and how to replicate them, the fact you often got to fuck around with explosives and all that since I was a little kid, then when I became a teenager everything became cgi and it sucks. There's no wonder to special effects, they just made a dmall town of people work really hard on computers for nothing. Either do the politcal drama well as a series or make the whole story different for movies. I have a 3 movie prequel treatment for the nerds out there from when I gave a shit that I could recall the broad strokes of. They went for the middle and missed the exhaust port cause computer screen instead of the force or whatever, allegories
the shocking thing about the prequels is how much still was practical, and how well the cgi integrated with it---there's movies that came out this year with less legit looking cgi than the phantom menace. in sharp contrast to the original series cg-editions lol.
lucas was always a huge effects-head, i think that's one of the strengths of the OT, the character writing not being as bad grounds the audience but then there's exploding planets, lazer dog-fights & lazer samurai battles. taking out the bombastic you can still make a good star war (andor), but i think something would be lost. at least in a main line capital-S Star War.
yeah but the core of 1 person's arc, even from childhood fits fine in one film. Lucas essentially had 2 films worth of wiggle room to contextualize that one guy's story in politics, battles, and worldbuilding, but there's soooo much waste.
Have you seen the behind the scenes to the prequels? Next to nothing is practical except sometimes in episode 1. It's blue screen for days. Especially compared to other films st the time it was absolutely exorbitant with cg. Look at the prequels compared to lord of the rings. Regardless you could still.hafe battles and action, it's a full scale war story but the story of that war can't just be some but not enough events leading up for it to make sense, the inciting incident and the ending. Making the whole prequel trilogy about Darth Vader was a mistake from the start and letting the allure the character had on the real world affect the world building. In the OT he was important to Luke but to everyone else he was just like...the emperor's really scary right hand guy. He was part of a larger world
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If it's gotta be a film trilogy and be less andor mire rotj, focus less on anakin, he's there and a major character but Obi Wan is the main. The first episode is obi Wan and his new apprenric Anakin doing some jedi bullshit and discover a threat! Some weird aliens thst can clone themselves and be basically an unlimited army are a-comin! The republic reacts to this crisis, gives Palpatine the emergency powers, this clone army is relentless and eventually society becomes more and more militarized and people are drafted into being storm troopers, politcal control increases etc. The clones run dry, the empire is now a thing without anyone really noticing it happened. Maybe Palpatine orchestrated the clones maybe he didn't, doesn't matter much. Anakin goes dark side somewhere over the course of this but by the end circumstances have led to the jedi being pretty dark as well during the war, he just didn't let it go. The remaining jedi wh ogot their shit back together after the war are then mostly killed by Vader. Add a compelling cast that gels as well as the OT and add their personal stories and that pretty much fills out three films.
i accidentally deleted my wip reply: tldr, War and Peace proves a big expensive setpiece-y movie series can be good, Lucas had a unique opportunity (having more money than god) to direct such a project. the fucking writing and story sucked. i don't like the 'darth vader lifestory' premise either, it just wasn't an unworkable idea
the clones being the bad guys was the 'original' premise of the Clone War in novelizations that's some deep lore you're on
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