I don't know, this seems like pretty weak sauce. A lot of it is just describing how prisons and incarceration work in much of the world:
The document is more evidence that the official narrative constructed by China about the camps is false; "vocational education and training center" is a euphemism.
We call prisons in the U.S. "correctional facilities." Similar names are used in countries that actually put a major focus on rehabilitative work.
Students are monitored after their release.
So parole?
Strictly forbid phones, recorders and other recording equipment from being brought onto the premises; pictures must not be carelessly posted online.
As you point out, public/press access to prisons is usually pretty limited.
You could make some prison abolitionist arguments about this, sure. But I don't think it even comes close to how the U.S. treats black people. It's certainly not an actual genocide, and "cultural genocide" has become such a loose term that I don't think it's helpful here either.
I’ve never seen a cell phone video taken by inmates of a US prison.
You haven't? Because I have. Especially back when Covid first hit the US and the prisons were basically just condemning huge chunks of the prisoners to die, I saw several cell phone videos of the conditions.
I follow a few prisioners on tik tok. Plus everyone that gets out talks about hoe bad it is. Even prision staff talk about how bad it is. The only people not with it are journalists.
It's also a perfect little microcosm of the anti-Communist orthodoxy. Just like all the "Sovietologists" who were shocked when the Soviet archives were opened and it was definitively proven that Stalin was earnestly attempting to build Socialism, they never even consider the possibility that their opponents may be honest in the things they say.
Anti-Communists of all varieties love to write their little essays about why the evil Tankies are taking over and why people fall into that dark, evil hole, but they never just ask MLs about our beliefs.
They don't care about finding the truth, they've unscientificly started with the forgone conclusion that "tankies" are evil and worked backwards from there.
There's tons of inside looks of terrible conditions in US prisons lol, just have to look for them as the news generally doesn't run anything on them until you have like Attica situations
deleted by creator
I don't know, this seems like pretty weak sauce. A lot of it is just describing how prisons and incarceration work in much of the world:
We call prisons in the U.S. "correctional facilities." Similar names are used in countries that actually put a major focus on rehabilitative work.
So parole?
As you point out, public/press access to prisons is usually pretty limited.
You could make some prison abolitionist arguments about this, sure. But I don't think it even comes close to how the U.S. treats black people. It's certainly not an actual genocide, and "cultural genocide" has become such a loose term that I don't think it's helpful here either.
deleted by creator
deleted by creator
You haven't? Because I have. Especially back when Covid first hit the US and the prisons were basically just condemning huge chunks of the prisoners to die, I saw several cell phone videos of the conditions.
deleted by creator
I follow a few prisioners on tik tok. Plus everyone that gets out talks about hoe bad it is. Even prision staff talk about how bad it is. The only people not with it are journalists.
there are tons of these on TikTok alone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K_ozKtvU9M
https://wokeglobaltimes.com/tankies-and-despair Thanks that's a good website
Lmao Libs love to psychoanalyze everyone who doesn't believe the same stupid bullshit as them
It's just a fancy way of saying "you're crazy" and dismissing you
It's also a perfect little microcosm of the anti-Communist orthodoxy. Just like all the "Sovietologists" who were shocked when the Soviet archives were opened and it was definitively proven that Stalin was earnestly attempting to build Socialism, they never even consider the possibility that their opponents may be honest in the things they say.
Anti-Communists of all varieties love to write their little essays about why the evil Tankies are taking over and why people fall into that dark, evil hole, but they never just ask MLs about our beliefs.
They don't care about finding the truth, they've unscientificly started with the forgone conclusion that "tankies" are evil and worked backwards from there.
Yeah they totally hit the nail on the head understanding why communists might lean authoritarian
thank u, opinion disregarded
lol
i just unfollowed @badchinatake, didn't realize he was this much of a dumbass lib
In fairness, it looks like there are two “bad china takes”: @BadChinaTakes and @china_takes
Opinion ------> 🚮🗑
There's tons of inside looks of terrible conditions in US prisons lol, just have to look for them as the news generally doesn't run anything on them until you have like Attica situations