Herbert Lee was an American civil rights activist remembered as a proponent of voting rights for African Americans in Mississippi, who had been disenfranchised since 1890. He was a charter member of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) in Amite County and sought to enfranchise black Americans by encouraging voter registration.
In 1961, Lee assisted Bob Moses, a field secretary with Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC), in his efforts to persuade locals to register. His activities were met with threats of reprisal by the white community, and Lee became one of the movement's earliest victims to white violence. On this day in 1961, Lee was murdered by Mississippi state representative E. H. Hurst (1908 - 1990) in broad daylight at the cotton gin while delivering cotton near Liberty.
Hurst killed Lee with a single shot to the head, but later claimed in court that he was defending himself after Lee attacked him with a tire iron. An all-white jury ruled that the killing was a justifiable homicide. In 1964, civil rights activist Louis Allen was killed after he informed federal investigators that his testimony in the case was forced on threat of violence.
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today was interesting to say the least for me lol
New Vegas mini struggle session I mentioned last megathread:
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So, is it right to hunt down the Enclave Remnants? I mean, they're basically the equivalent of elderly Wehrmacht soldiers that have evaded any sort of justice. Doing the amount of fighting they did in support of the Enclave...more than likely led to some war crimes being committed by them. So, if you're old or useful to the Courier can they be forgiven? Does the fact they mostly fondly recall the Enclave show they're not truly past their ways? Does fighting against other fascists or imperialists redeem a former fascist in some way? Is it a similar situation to Trotsky recruiting former Imperial Russian officers?
One the other hand, killing them would make Arcade sad...
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You're the only other New Vegas heads I know are here or who showed interest, thoughts?
that's not a hot take, the enclave are fascists, they fought to genocide people, they suck
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It’s a video game, recruiting problematic people always makes the last level easier. If we’re pretending that this shit is real, then honestly I say getting air support is more important than ethics. If the old people start organizing just sick the brotherhood on them in exchange for help disarming the cannibal outlaws.
Uhhh.....
The future is more important than the past. Old war criminals might deserve death, but if they're not harming anything in the present and they can help you achieve a good result, then it'd be foolish to refuse it, unless you were worried it might harm your image or something like that. The goal of ethics is to produce good results, punishing bad people is just a means of deterring others from doing bad things, and in this case it sounds like not dying takes priority.
You know... that's a pretty good set of points.
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