I must have missed the announcement, but this has to be a large joke right? The amount of shit that will get people killed on here is just constantly being repeated, telling small women how to train to fight off multiple opponents with their fists, people recommending carrying tactical tomahawks, others suggesting to just keep beating people after they are unconscious.

Its like somebody just brought a voice recorder to a literal mall ninja shop and turned it into a text transcript for reddit.

  • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    the real secret is anything that would actually be useful for self defense is illegal. Like, I was looking into buying a pair of reinforced gloves for walking my dog incase the grumpy neighbor dog started causing trouble so I could just pick it up and not worry about being bit. Those are illegal, technically sap gloves. Felony carry like brass knuckles. Also, technically a big stick would be illegal, but even less useful as I would have to hit the dog instead of just safely separating them.

    I found out my best option was getting a gun license and using an AR-15 as a stick to keep the dogs separated. Only kind of joking.

      • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        if you are riding a bike, it's fine. If you get off your bike and get in a fight it is not fine. It of course depends on the cop and your luck. Like, I could carry a chain saw. If it is for work fine. If I have it to fend off the neighbor dog, probably not fine.

        Realistically, I could just get them and keep them on the walk and it wouldn't be an issue. However, if the neighbor is just as big an ass as his dog, and the cop wants to make a big deal about it, that could end real bad for me real fast.

    • Tofu_Lewis [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I mean, if you are going to go hit some balls at the diamond, you would need a baseball bat right? So carry a baseball bat and a ball. Bonus is that you can hit the ball to your dog.

  • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    If anyone's wondering, the first rule of self-defense is to avoid a physical conflict. The second is to run away. The third is that if you're being held, brutally apply enough sudden pain that you can get free and run away. That last one doesn't always work which is why you do the first two if you can.

    If you're resigned to fighting, you could very well die. It's not like the movies where you take punches and fall over and everything is fine. Fall wrong and hit your head and you're dead/paralyzed. You could get kicked on the head, which is rightfully considered an attempted murder because likelihood of death is high. This is why so much of martial arts is about keeping your footing, stamina, and protecting your head.

    If you take a self-defense class and the first few courses aren't about avoiding conflict, it's a bad class that will probably teach you some bad habits.

  • Ithorian [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    When was in my early twenties I had an older friend who always concealed carried for self defense. One day he was mugged at knife point and he just handed over his wallet, I asked him why he didn't pull out his gun. He told me one of the first rules of having a gun is to never point it at something you aren't prepared to kill, and he was never going to kill a person over a few hundred bucks. That really stuck with me and changed how I thought about self defense. If someone is trying to hurt me I'll defend myself but there is nothing I own worth killing a person over.

    • buh [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Another thing to consider in a situation like that is the risk of escalation. Sure your friend has a gun, but what says the mugger doesn't also have a gun and isn't quicker with it?

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I wanna know where these people think they're going to be attacked? I'd focus more on knowing the way out of a public place if a spree shooter showed up.

    • inshallah2 [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      For the right-wing I think they have a dread fear and a great hatred of the others - anybody who is different enough who they wish didn't exist. They have a wish-desire to do violence to the others or even kill them.

      As fucked up as America is - they can't openly share those thoughts of committing violence and murder in public. So they have to use euphemisms like - "What happens if a mugger attacks me?" but in their mind's eye there's no mugger. If they want to be more bold and direct they just come out and say it - "What happens if a Muslim attacks me?"

      • RNAi [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I remember first time I saw Zizek he was rambling about how Taxi Driver is the murican fantasy of violence that originates from a suicidal wish.

        But yeah most are also fascists

        *schniffs*

      • Tapirs10 [undecided,she/her]
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        3 years ago

        When chuds talk about a "mugger", their brain is saying a different word ending in ger. Not once in the mind of these people would a criminal be white

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        They often have elaborate apocalypse scenarios too where they're shooting down attacking waves of looters all barreling down on their property. Those are the most deranged.

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Are there any good examples of real life kinetic situations being broken up by these good guys with guns? My gut tells me they'd only make the situation worse by shooting the wrong person or just die instantly.

        • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
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          3 years ago

          I remember at least one story about a good guy with a gun stopping a mass shooting and then getting killed by the police for having a weapon

          • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            oh yeah there are people who know what they're doing but these goofballs talking about tactical tomahawks don't seem like they'd be the coolest under pressure

    • REallyN [she/her,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Honestly, alot of times when I go to the convivence store late at night I get kind of paranoid when there is someone else around that they are gonna attack me or something.
      Pretty much everyone else is just walking to the store or something to though, so it's not a real concern....but still.

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    There's so much weird posturing in communities like that. Yes, you're extremely macho and powerful and you've brought a huge combat knife to Dippin Dots just in case the bad guys from Commando show up to kidnap everyone's daughters. You're not frightened of your own shadow at all.

    • inshallah2 [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      huge combat knife

      Ahem: a huge tactical knife.

      They're crazy for that word because to them it implies not only being in combat but also doing stuff like using a knife in hand-to-hand combat to kill. So tactical also has a use in marketing. Even somebody who just sits on their ass all day pushing paper around can pretend to be a badass too...

      Scott Pruitt's "tactical pants" scandal, very briefly explained - Vox

      As part of the EPA’s eye-popping $4.6 million in taxpayer dollars spent on security, the administrator’s office had spent nearly $3,000 on “tactical pants” and “tactical polos.”

  • Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    There's a guy on the front page wondering if it's ok to kill someone in self defence from the krav maga he's been learning on YouTube

  • Wildgrapes [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    I'm someone who likes to be prepared. If go hiking I carry extra water to help someone who might be in need. I carry first aid and survival gear even for short hikes indeed including a knife. This is of course because I wish to help people. Very strange to me to consider carrying a combat knife to circle k to buy a slushie.

    • inshallah2 [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Very strange to me to consider carrying a combat knife to circle k to buy a slushie.

      Me too.

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    What really fucks with me is the knowledge that fights in the real world almost always don't even give you the chance to apply a self defense technique. My uncle got jumped outside of a bar once, despite concealed carrying he got beaten into unconsciousness before he knew what was happening (then, because we live in America, the time in hospital made him lose his job/insurance and the medical bills made him have to sell his home and go into a debt which took about a decade to pay off). Squaring off with somebody 1 on 1 with rules is cathartic and fun, getting into a fight fucking sucks.

    Any way, that shit said the best self defense technique you can learn is sprinting. Most people, if you run fast enough, will quickly decide that chasing you isn't worth it. This also applies to many :top-cop:.

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    the best defense is a good offense.

    don't live your life in fear of what is waiting for you in the dark. become the monster lurking in the darkness.

    pro-tip: file all of your teeth down to sharp points.