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  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    This is what happens when you mix liberal "Stalin and Hitler were allies because of the non-aggression pact" bullshit with a profound ignorance of basic chronology and run it through a mind infected with centrist both sides brainworms.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      My high school literally taught us, not even slightly critically, that Stalin and Hitler were allies who started the war by invading Poland together.

      My favorite thing about that insane idea is that it's called a non-aggression pact - You don't need a non-aggression pact with your allies! You don't have to agree with your allies "We won't kill you yet," it's already assumed! That's what makes you allies!

      It's like saying parents were allies working together to split up the kids because they signed a divorce agreement.

    • ClathrateG [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/3223834/Stalin-planned-to-send-a-million-troops-to-stop-Hitler-if-Britain-and-France-agreed-pact.html

    • apparitionist [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      woke badly written comment on that article: https://libcom.org/blog/greek-stalinists-welcome-fascist-involvement-workers-dispute-27022012

      YOU use a real fact(the visiting of the strikers from the facists),to say bad things about the communistic patry and the workers fight against EU,the new labour laws,and the unneployment. truth is that the workers had to accept the visiting,but if you listen to the speach of the union president ,is against the facist party and their politicians that are allready in the parliament with another facist party(LAOS). TRY NOT TO SAY LIES ,especially when they are about the greek workers and their heroic fight they give for over 3 months in this specific industry,and for many decades generally through the communist party that is always with them.

      "TRY NOT TO SAY LIES" lmao :data-laughing:

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        lmao libcom.org are basically professional wrong opinion havers, so the KKE may or may not suck but I'm not gonna take it from this source.

        Plus being bad doesn't make them fascists.

  • wombat [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    allying with nazis is when you fight the bloodiest war in history to save the world from the nazis

  • opposide [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    There is literally a world famous poem telling you who the nazis went for first

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    WHO IS THIS FUCKING DUMB FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU TO HELL

  • comi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Greek nazbols are somehow more popular then expected, but comrade @Pezevenk prolly knows something

    • please_dont [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Greek nazbols

      Like in literally every country in the world there dont exist more than a 3 digit number of actual "nazbols". Its not a thing. If you are calling communists or commuist party voters that are also socialy concervative (usualy at 40+ years of age) nazbols then there are a bunch both in Greece and pretty much everywhere but you also shouldnt do that cause its completely dumb and wrong

      • Kaputnik [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I mean Russia did have a notable Nazbol party, but they're probably the exception

        • s0ykaf [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          there are some nazbol (dugin people and shit) in south america, but they mostly fail pretty hard

        • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          The most fun fact is that Russian Nazbol party was less Nazbol and more weird pro-reunification of the USSR socdems.

          Also always lol'ed that they were less homophobic than KPRF.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Ummm that's, like, ancient but I'm pretty damn sure it didn't happen exactly like that, this is just some dumbfuck smear, Golden Dawn has repeatedly fought with and attacked KKE members even on live TV. I'm guessing whoever wrote it was angry at KKE for keeping anarchists away from their marches or whatever. "Nazbols" are not really a thing in Greece.

      • comi [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        The thingy about kke and parliament isn’t true then? Huh, oh well :brainworms: then for extraction

        • Pezevenk [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          The parliament thing is true I guess, the Golden Dawn thing is stupid. KKE did a number of bad things during the crisis period, the Papariga era was bad. But they do not side with fascists, that's stupid.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The fascists just showed up to the strike, what's left out is that they were in no way accepted or supported by either the communist party or the striking workers.

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Stop, nazbol don't exist, they never existed. Any proof of the opposite is made up. Nobody is so idiot to be a nazbol.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      If you're a communist and a libcom/anarchist sees a Nazi within 200ft of you, they automatically assume you're friends and that you just happen to greet them with fists in a friendly Stalinist way.

  • Sklorp [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    The prussian landstag referendum was a pretty big bruh moment. But it didn't actually succeed so...

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      :bruh-moment: , what the fuck was that

      • Sklorp [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        I think as much as we criticize people for punching left, we have to realize that sometimes the urge to own the libs is too strong in the communist movement

        • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          I mean, that vote was obviously a real bad idea. Big :bruh-moment: . I wonder what their reasoning was?

          • Sklorp [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            "Stalin told them to" Is the simple answer.
            The leader of the stallheim had called for a referendum to a dissolve the "Marxist" institution of the Prussian state parliament (Run by a coalition of Center parties) he was supported by the DVP, the DNVP and the Nazis (So this is reaaaaally not good company to be in)
            Originally the KDP had opposed the motion on the grounds of "Duh". Because even though taking power by referendum had been discussed, doing so with the DNVP and the Nazis was dumb and none of the regional representatives wanted to alienate the social democrats to side with the right.

            But Stalin and the comintern more broadly (Including Neumann) argued that opposition to social fascism was paramount and compromise with them was impossible and undesirable anyway. Power could possibly be seized, and the current situation was untenable anyway.

        • RNAi [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          A nazi who is poor and want basic human rights (for their group) isn't a comrade.

          Edit: ah sorry this doesn't answer your comment, I replied without looking the context.

  • RedArmor [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Yes. The people hitlers nazi Germany famously came after and killed first, were allied with them.